WMST-L LOG9308B ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 13:03:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: IANAS STORY added to WMST-L files Last week, Iana Pattatucci sent an exceptionally moving autobiographical account to WMST-L. Arnie Kahn suggested that Iana's story might be very useful in Intro to Women's Studies courses; Arnie wrote: > We discussed earlier this year about how the Intro course (and other > WS courses) can be real downers--we live in an unfriendly, patriarchal > world that crushes and harms women. And that's true. But Iana's story > shows us other truths: As awful as child abuse (and other abuses) can > be, humans can overcome them with the appropriate help; that while > patriarchy is a terrible thing, not all individual men are bad; that each > of us has the potential to be a Ray Biever for someone. > > I would certainly like to use it in class. Iana has given her permission. Her story and an appended statement of permission have now been added to the WMST-L files under the title IANAS STORY. To retrieve the file, send the command GET IANAS STORY to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet) [please note that because of the requirements of IBM mainframe file names, there's no apostrophe in IANAS]. To get a list of all WMST-L files, add a second line to the message saying simply INDEX WMST-L . Be sure to send these statements to LISTSERV, not to WMST-L!. Many thanks to Iana for sharing her extraordinary story. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 19:37:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: WMST-L archives (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section ten: 10) "I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR TWO WEEKS. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT I'VE MISSED ON WMST-L DURING THE TIME I'VE BEEN GONE. IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACCESS PREVIOUS MESSAGES?" [also useful for new subscribers] Yes. All WMST-L messages are automatically archived. The 1991 archives are arranged in monthly logs; beginning in Jan., 1992, the logs were changed to a weekly format. To find out what logs are available, you can send LISTSERV the following command: INDEX WMST-L . You'll then receive a list of the available logs. To obtain the logs, send LISTSERV the following command: GET WMST-L [filename] where [filename] is the name of the log file you want. For example: GET WMST-L LOG9105 will get you the May '91 log (9105 refers to the 5th month of 1991). LOG9106 is the June log, LOG9107 the July log, etc. (It's possible that the wording of your request may take a slightly different form, depending on your mail system, but what you want is WMST-L LOGxxxx.) Warning: some of these logs are LARGE; the June '91 log is almost 500K. As a result, you may not be permitted to get more than a few logs on any given day (the current limit is 20 files or 2M - i.e., 2000K). Because of the logs' unwieldy size, the format was changed to weekly beginning in 1992: WMST-L LOG9201A is the log for the first week in January '92, WMST-L LOG9201B is for the second week, etc. ******************* Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 12:15:26 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was LANG@LAGON From: Judith Ezekiel Subject: Re: French women's movement (post-1965) Re: looking for sources on the French contemporary women's movement. You are right not to take the portrayals "French Feminism" in the US at face value. It most certainly doesn't correspond to what most scholars of feminism in France see as their movement. Below is a short bibliography of books. I'll add articles when I get a chance. I am an American who has lived in Paris for a number of years, originally a historian of American contemporary feminism, but now working on France. In French Bernheim, Cathy. Perturbation, ma soeur. Naissance d'un mouvement des femmes,JParis: Seuil, 1983 Centre Lyonnais d'Etudes Feministes (Catherine Guinchard, Annick Houel, Brigitte Lhomond, Patricia Mercader, Helga Sobota and Michele Bridoux), Chronique d'une passion, le Mouvement de Liberation des Femmes a Lyon,JParis: L'Harmattan, 1989 Chronique d'une imposture: Du Mouvement de liberation des femmes a une marque commerciale.JParis: Association Mouvement pour les Luttes Feministes, 1981. de Pisan, Annie, and Anne Tristan,JHistoires du MLF,JParis: Calman-Levy, 1977 GEF. Crises de la Societe, Feminisme et Changement. Jrevue d'en face/Tierce, 1991. Guadilla, Naty Garcia. Liberation des femmes: le MLF,JParis: PUF, 1981 Le Feminisme et ses Enjeux: vingt-sept femmes parlent, Centre federal FEN-Edilig: Paris, 1988 Le Sexisme ordinaire,JParis: Seuil, 1979. Leger, Daniele. Le feminisme en France,JParis: Le Sycomore, 1982 Picq, Fran oise. Liberation des femmes: Les Ann mouvement.JParis: Seuil, 1993. Remy,Monique. Histoire des mouvements de femmes,JParis: L'Harmattan, 1990 In English: Duchen, Claire. Feminism in France: from May '68 to Mitterrand.JLondon: Routledge, 1986 Primary sources, translated into English, see Claire Duchen, ed. French Connections: Voices from the Women's Movement in France.JLondon: Routledge, 1987 Laubier, Claire ed. The Condition of Women in France: 1945 to the present.JLondon: Routledge, 1990. Sorry for the typos. French accents and poor control of EMail so far. Judith Ezekiel lang@lagon.biomath.jussieu.fr ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:54:17 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was LANG@LAGON From: Judith Ezekiel Subject: Re: French Women's Movement (post 1945) On French feminism. Addendum to my bibliography: The following article in English is short and usable with students. Lhomond, Brigitte. "France: Feminism and the Women's Liberation Movement."Jin Women's Studies Encyclopedia Vol. 3., Helen Tierney, ed. Westport, CT: Greenwood, 1991, 150-55. Note, however, that the literature on the contemporary French movement is sparse. Judith Ezekiel lang@lagon.biomath.jussieu.fr ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:56:30 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was LANG@LAGON From: Judith Ezekiel Subject: Re: French Women's Movement (post 1945) Oh, I forgot.... The journal Feminist Issues has translated a lot of texts of interest, many from the French journal Questions Feministes Judith Ezekiel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 09:58:50 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Pearson Gretchen Subject: Re: Urgent request for BSRI-short form I am not a copyright expert, but am often called upon to provide information for our campus (it seems that I know more than anyone else), and so keep a number of books and files on the copyright law. I must step in here and remind people that photocopying standardized tests is strictly prohibited, for any reason. One may make copies of a few pages of the manual and that is all. Standardized tests must be purchased from the publisher. We cannot even loan them on interlibrary loan, nor can we loan them to others outside our institutional community. And the contract we sign with the publishers when we purchase these tests emphasizes these guidelines, for the most part. Please be considerate when making and fillings sorts of requests. Thank you. Gretchen Pearson, Public Services Librarian Le Moyne College, Syracuse, NY pearson@lemoyne.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 09:58:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: WMST-L files (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section eleven: 11) "HOW DO I FIND OUT WHAT FILES ARE AVAILABLE FROM WMST-L, AND HOW DO I OBTAIN THE FILES I WANT?" To find out what files are available, send LISTSERV the same command mentioned in the previous section: INDEX WMST-L. The list you'll receive from LISTSERV includes files as well as logs. To obtain the file(s) you want, send LISTSERV the following command: GET [filename] WMST-L where [filename] is the name of the file you want. For example: GET USSR WOMEN WMST-L Note that [filename] consists of two words separated by a space and not a period. (Adding WMST-L after the two-word filename is optional; it simply makes sure that if two lists have a file with the same name, you'll get the right one.) NOTE: women's studies syllabi are contained in a subdirectory called SYLLABI, while feminist film reviews are to be found in a subdirectory called FILM. To find out what syllabi (or film reviews) the subdirectory contains, send LISTSERV the command INDEX SYLLABI (or INDEX FILM). To obtain the file(s) you want, send LISTERV the following command: GET [filename] SYLLABI or GET [filename] FILM If you are requesting a film review, be aware that the filename always takes the form FILM REVx (e.g., FILM REV25); the name of the film is NOT the filename! You can request more than one file at once; just be sure to put each request on a separate line. LISTSERV will then send the file(s) to you either in a mail message or in Netdata format. To retrieve files sent by LISTSERV in Netdata format, follow these instructions: If your e-mail address is on a VAX/VMS machine, when you get a message that one or more files have arrived at your e-mail address, you should type "RECEIVE *" (do not include the quotation marks) at the $ prompt. This command will put the file(s) into your main directory. You can then type "TYPE filename" (replace "filename" with the actual name of the file) to read the file. If it's a long file, you can read it more effectively by typing "TYPE/PAGE filename." If your e-mail address is on an IBM VM/CMS machine, either use your mailer front end or type RLIST and RECEIVE the file into your FLIST. Go into your FLIST to look at the file. If your e-mail address is on a different kind of machine OR you are using Profs or some other kind of similar mailing system, go ahead and try the above commands. If they do not work, CALL YOUR COMPUTER SERVICES OFFICE. The people there should be able to help you and/or give you a manual for your mailing system commands. ******************* Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 11:23:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: RHODA UNGER Subject: Attitudes about art For a colleague who is interested in aesthetics, I would like to know if any one on the list knows of measuring instruments that look at people's perceptionsabout art. He is interested in the question of whether sex-related differences in pleasingness is related to people's beliefs about art as a masculine domain. Please send responses to me privately and I will pass them on. Also, my institution has changed its telephone exchange so if anyone wants to reach me, please call 201 655 - 4401. Thanks, Rhoda Unger unger@apollo.montclair.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 11:30:42 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Paula Gaber Subject: inforM update: iana's story The following files and/or directories have been added to the inforM Women's Studies Database: Women's Studies/Reading Room/ianas-story Iana Pattatucci's autobiographical story, which was posted to WMST-L earlier this month, along with Arnie Kahn's suggestion for using it in classes, and Iana's response to his suggestion. (Also available from the WMST-L listserv, listserv@umdd.umd.edu) To access the inforM database, telnet to INFORM.UMD.EDU. (If you do not know how to telnet, contact a local computer wizard, or try typing "telnet inform.umd.edu" at the main prompt of your computer account). When it asks for a login id, type "gopher". Use either your arrow keys or number keys to select "4. Educational Resources". After that, select "12. Women's Studies". The Gopher interface has a feature that allows users to send files to their e-mail accounts. Scroll to the end of the file and type "m", or at anytime press "q" (for quit), then "m". The inforM system is also accessible by anonymous ftp. FTP to INFORM.UMD.EDU. Login as "anonymous", and use your mail address as a password. Choose the "info" directory by typing "cd info". The command "cd [directory name]" will change the directory. The commands "dir" or "ls" will display a list of files in that directory. Use the command "get [filename]" to download a file into your account. The directory pathname for the Women's Studies Database is info/Teaching/WomensStudies. Your local Gopher System may be set up to automatically link to the Womens's Studies Database. Check the "Other Systems" or "Other Gophers" directory or ask your system administrator for help. Please remember that the system is case sensitive. Anything that appears in quotes must be typed exactly as it is here. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Paula Gaber inforM, Room 4343 Coordinator, Women's Studies Database Computer Science Center gaber@inform.umd.edu University of Maryland (301) 405-2939 College Park, Maryland 20742 =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 11:42:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Phyllis Holman Weisbard Subject: French feminism Judith Ezekiel has listed many resources. How about HER article :Radicay in Theory: Organized Women's Studies in France, the Women's Movement, and the State," WOMEN'S STUDIES QUARTERLY Vo. 20, No. 3/4 (Fall/Winter 1992). This issue of WSQ is on Women's Studies in Europe and contains many other good articles on the state of WS and the women's movement in the UK, the Netherlands, Germany, etc. Phyllis Holman Weisbard (608) 263-5754 Acting Women's Studies Librarian pweis@wiscmacc (Bitnet) University of Wisconsin System pweis@macc.wisc.edu (Internet) Room 430 Memorial Library 728 State Street Madison, WI 53706 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 21:33:55 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was LANG@LAGON From: Judith Ezekiel Subject: Re: French feminism I thank Phyllis Holman Weisbard for having cited my article on women's studies in France. It's always nice when somebody else "does your publicity," as the French expression goes. I had only listed books on the women's movement, per se. If anyone is interested in women's studies in France, I can put together a bibliography on that, as well as an address list of resources. Judith Ezekiel lang@lagon.biomath.jussieu.fr ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 16:05:55 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DAPHNE PATAI Subject: les-bi-an Hello folks. Does anyone know the source - maybe Jill Johnston - of a line "Every woman can be a les-bi-an" (if I remember aright)? Many thanks. Daphne -- ====================== Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 16:46:30 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jo Malin Subject: les-bi-an I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 09-Aug-1993 04:43pm EDT From: Jo Malin JMALIN Dept: Talent Search Tel No: 773-7718 TO: Remote RSCS/NJE Network User ( _JNET%WMST-L@UMDD ) Subject: les-bi-an Daphne, Its the title and first line of a song on an old record (about1970) called "Lavendar Jane Loves Women". I have it at home and will send more details tomorrow. Jo Malin ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 15:51:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Lee Simon Subject: les-bi-an I think it's alex dobkin beth blsimon@macc.wisc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:50:23 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Ariel Subject: campus survey of women faculty and academic staff The Faculty Women's Association at UC Irvine is planning to do a brief survey of women faculty and academic staff here to gather information on women's status and experience. We are concerned about such issues as pay equity, hiring, promotion, and retention, sexual harassment, etc. We would greatly appreciate any information on or examples of similar survey instruments or questions which we might use in formulating our own. Many thanks in advance. Joan Ariel Academic Coordinator UC Irvine jariel@uci.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 15:55:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Lee Simon Subject: alex dobkin, les-bi-an jo and daphne, lavender jane loves etc., is by alex dobkin. beth ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:25:20 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: micki Subject: Re: French Women's Movement (post 1945) In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:56:30 EDT from This is not my area of research, but I wonder if another resource area is being overlooked in the query re French feminism and the women's movement: Quebec and/or French Canadian feminism. best wishes, Maureen Korp, PhD University of Ottawa mkorp@uottawa mkorp@acadvm1.uottawa.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:34:34 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: micki korp Subject: Re: Attitudes about art In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 9 Aug 1993 11:23:00 EST from On Mon, 9 Aug 1993 11:23:00 EST RHODA UNGER said: > >For a colleague who is interested in aesthetics, I would like to know if any >one on the list knows of measuring instruments that look at people's > perceptionsabout art. He is interested in the question of whether sex-related > differences >in pleasingness is related to people's beliefs about art as a masculine domain. Does he mean visual art? And the viewer's perception of same? Or the artist's? If the former, there are such things: check the library subject heading "Psychology of Art". If the latter, precious little. What there is I've probably dug out and listed in my dissertation biblio which you can get through Listserv@uottawa.bitnet or listserv@acadvm1.uottawa.ca for Internet. I "think" the command is get Korp biblio (I'm not home with my files at hand.) But what means "pleasingness?" And as for art being a "masculine domain"? Do you mean the artists are mostly masculine? Depends on how you count 'em (and who is counting, and why). Or the art appreciators are....? No, not so. Or do you mean are the famous artists who are cited in Western Art History books mostly men? Sure, that's what is in those books. But it is changing. best wishes, Maureen Korp, PhD University of Ottawa ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 21:18:20 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beatrice Kachuck Subject: Re: French women's movement (post-1965) In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 7 Aug 1993 15:27:51 -0700 from for post-1965 French feminist movement you might try Toril Moi (Ed.) French fem inist thought: a reader (in english). new york: blackwell, 1987. beatrice ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 21:35:21 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jim boyce Subject: adult and adolescent feminism "Part of the women's movement has already initiated that evolutionary shift [away from being the "protected"] -- the part that says, `I, woman, must take responsibility for what occurs in my life'; that says, `Don't kill your husband if he's abusing you, walk away'; the part that encourages women, `Pick up his dinner check as often as he picks up yours'; the part that says, `Don't `marry up,' depend on yourself'; the part that empowers women to the point of being willing to consider a loving man `eligible' even if he expects *her* to financially support *him* while he nurtures her. This part of the women's movement is the Division of *Adult* Feminism. Another part of the women's movement reinforces age-old patterns -- the part that wants combat rights but not combat obligations; that speaks of the `glass ceiling' but not the `glass cellar' [that men are found in the most dangerous professions]; that wants government protection for battered women but denies even the existence of battered men; the part that neglects to encourage women to feel as comfortable "marrying down" and financially supporting a man to be the dad as `marrying up' and having a man support her to be the mom. This part only reinforces women's genetic heritage -- find a hero, marry him, depend on him; *or* divorce him and get the government to play substitute husband. It reinforces women discovering a variety of ways to be victim in order to find a variety of ways to be saved. This part of the women's movement is the Division of *Adolescent* Feminism." Sorry about that long post but it is related to women's studies in that I am curious about other authors who make a distinction between different types of feminism -- i.e. First Wave and Second Wave, "Adult" and "Adolescent" -- and who also make judgements as to which one is better. Also, are there any books on this idea of protection, i.e. men protecting women to the detriment of one, the other, or both? How would one approach this topic in a class and with what texts? Any help would be appreciated. By the way, the above quote comes from pages 369-370 of a thought- encouraging book by Warren Farrell called _The Myth of Male Power: Why Men Are the Disposable Sex_ (Simon & Schuster: New York 1993). jb ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 21:59:37 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beatrice Kachuck Subject: Re: campus survey of women faculty and academic staff In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:50:23 -0700 from to get info on faculty women's in reference to pay equity, promotion, etc. the cuny women's coalition charged the university with discrimination in a class ac tion suit. then we had to go to court to access personnel files in each depart ment. we won - 10 years of struggle! but it's never over. i recall looking in files for info on degree, university, publications, committee service, startin g salary, etc. you may be able to get a fuller list of item we included from t he attorney who represented us: judith vladeck in new york city. beatrice ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 09:06:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: 2 calls for papers I have received the following two announcements: 1) CFP: sexual orientation (NWSA Journal - deadline extended) 2) CFP: Women's Health: Key Research & Health Care Issues (McMaster U) For more information, please contact the people mentioned in the announcements, not WMST-L or me. Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc) ************************************************************* 1) CALL FOR PAPERS: NWSA JOURNAL - deadline extended NWSA Journal is planning a special issue focusing on sexual orientation. We are interested in articles addressing one or more of the following topics: The social construction of sexual identity; The interaction of sexual orientation and factors such as gender, race and class; Homophobia and discrimination; Incorporating lesbian, gay and bisexual perspectives in research and in curricula; Philosophical, cultural, ethical, legal and political perspectives on sexual orientation; The representation of gays and lesbians in literature and/or popular culture; Lesbian and gay writers and artists; And other related topics. NWSA Journal would welcome scholarly articles, 25-35 pages long, as well as essays on Learning and Teaching, Research Notes, Biographical Portraits, and Polemical or Personal Observations. The latter are shorter pieces (10-15 pages) that need not conform to the conventions of the standard scholarly article. For this issue we are also seeking review essays and book reviews. Each manuscript should conform to the MLA Manual of Style (1985). Send two copies of the text and abstract to: The Editor, NWSA Journal, English Department, The University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH 03824. Deadline extended to: NOVEMBER 1, 1993 (was 9/15) ************************************************************************** 2) CALL FOR ABSTRACTS McMaster University Women's Health Office WOMEN'S HEALTH : KEY RESEARCH AND HEALTH CARE ISSUES A national multidisciplinary conference ******************************************************* * April 21 - 24, 1994 * * McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada * * * ******************************************************* We hope to attract two hundred health and social scientists to this conference to review the status of women's health research, including policy and funding issues, research in progress, and consumer perspectives. The format will be a combination of plenary sessions, peer-reviewed papers and thematic posters. The final day will be dedicated to small group discussions and preparation of a position paper about health research priorities for women. Researchers in the area of women's health are invited to submit abstracts to the review committee which focus on research about the physical, social, political and/or environmental aspects of: Women's Illnesses Reproductive Health Women's Mental Health Women's Paid/Unpaid Work Women's Nutrition and Fitness Participants in the conference will be encouraged to consider the ways these aspects of women's health impact and manifest in various communities of women - immigrant and refugee women, racially and culturally diverse women, Aboriginal women, older women, disabled women, poor women and lesbians. Philosophical, methodological and political issues surrounding women's health research will be addressed. Each presentation will be allotted 20 minutes with 10 minutes for questions and comments. Abstracts must be received by November 30, 1993; conference registration should be received by 1 February, 1994. For preliminary announcement, which includes instructions for authors, send name, full address, name of institution, phone and fax numbers and e-mail address to: ELLISI@FHS.MCMASTER.CA Ingrid Ellis Conference Services Health Sciences Centre Room 1M10 McMaster University 1200 Main Street West Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8N 3Z5 (416) 515-9140, ext. 2182 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 09:28:01 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jo Malin Subject: les-bi-an I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 10-Aug-1993 09:21am EDT From: Jo Malin JMALIN Dept: Talent Search Tel No: 773-7718 TO: Remote RSCS/NJE Network User ( _JNET%WMST-L@UMDD ) Subject: les-bi-an Daphne, Its the chorus from a song titled "View from Gay Head" written by Alix Dobkin in 1973, arranged by Kay Gardner and Alix Dobkin for Lavendar Jane Loves Women (recorded 1975). My son who was about 5 when I was playing the record a lot was very fond of singing the chorus over and over while playing with (non-sexist) toys! Jo ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:29:57 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DAPHNE PATAI Subject: les-bi-an Thanks Jo and the rest of you who answered my query about the source of the line. I really appreciate the help. D. -- ====================== Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 19:24:27 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Bryan Strong: Psychology / UC-Santa Cruz" Subject: false memory I have been trying to find research on false memory syndrome as it relates to child sexual abuse. I have not been successful. Does anyone know of any research? Thanks ..... Bryan Strong Psychology Board of Studies University of California-Santa Cruz bartleby@cats.UCSC.EDU / bartleby@cats.UCSC.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 23:04:44 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Iana Pattatucci Subject: Predoctoral positions at the NIH If any of you know of grad students in Ph.D. programs either in psychology or biology (or some combination of the two) attenting institutions in or around the Washington, DC metropolitan area, looking to establish their dissertation research projects, please ask them to contact me. The NIH has a pretty good program for predoctoral students. They can contact me at 301-402-4876 and leave a message expressing interest. There are no guarantees and a general interest in sexual orientation research is a requirement. Angela "iana" Pattatucci, Ph.D. National Cancer Institute ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 00:23:11 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Re: false memory In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 10 Aug 1993 19:24:27 -0700 from Tue, 10 Aug 1993 19:24:27 -0700 Bryan Strong: Psychology / UC-Santa Cruz said >I have been trying to find research on false memory syndrome as it relates >to child sexual abuse. I have not been successful. Does anyone know of >any research? Thanks ..... > >Bryan Strong >Psychology Board of Studies >University of California-Santa Cruz >bartleby@cats.UCSC.EDU / bartleby@cats.UCSC.BITNET I've never heard the term used to refer to anything BUT child sexual abuse and its very use connotes a willingness to believe that the phenomenon of repressed memories of childhood sexual abuse is in fact (sometimes?) false --in other words, a very politically loaded terminology. - Allan Hunter ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 10:57:45 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was LANG@LAGON From: Judith Ezekiel Subject: Re: French Feminism A few comments on my bibliography on French feminism. Among the French books, I would strongly recommend two: 1. Centre Lyonnais d'Etudes Feministes (CLEF), _Chronique d'une passion, le Mouvement de Liberation des Femmes a Lyon_. Paris: L'Harmattan, 1989 2. Fran oise Picq. _Liberation des femmes: Les Ann mouvement_. Paris: Seuil, 1993. Both are based on in-depth research carried out by insiders. The Picq is popular history, although she did a more academic-style version for the national research institute. It's main drawback is its parisianocentrism. This tendancy is balanced out by the CLEF book, on the movement in Lyon. I would also like to thank Phyllis Holman Weisbard for having cited my article on women's studies in France. It's always nice when somebody else "does your publicity," as the French expression goes. I had only listed books on the women's movement, per se. If anyone is interested in women's studies in France, I can put together a bibliography on that, as well as an address list of resources. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 08:57:53 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ethel Tobach Subject: Katie Roiphe article The letter from Mary Koss that was not printed originally will be appearing in the Sunday Times of 8/15. They have refused to print a countering article. In yesterday's New York Times, Alice Vachss has a very good op-ed piece "All Rape is 'Real Rape'". For more information write ettgc@cunyvm Ethel Tobach ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 10:16:39 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Dawn Hughes Subject: Re: false memory In-Reply-To: <9308110231.AA16002@umd5.umd.edu> from "Bryan Strong: Psychology / UC-Santa Cruz" at Aug 10, 93 07:24:27 pm > > I have been trying to find research on false memory syndrome as it relates > to child sexual abuse. I have not been successful. Does anyone know of > any research? Thanks ..... > > Bryan Strong > Psychology Board of Studies > University of California-Santa Cruz > bartleby@cats.UCSC.EDU / bartleby@cats.UCSC.BITNET > Hi Bryan: A recent publication on false memory for childhood sexual abuse was in the May 1993 American Psychologist by Elizabth Loftus - The Reality of Repressed Memories. The article is very throrough but personally I do not feel that it stressed the point that many adult survivors *HAVE* experienced the abuse. As the reserach coordinator for a Sexual Abuse Survivors Clinic, our data suggests that women and men presenting for tx have some meories of the abuse intact, thereby limiting interference of therapist suggestion, as postulated by Loftus as one of the major problems. In fact, we wrote back to the Am Psy in response to Loftus' article citing our prelim data. Briere also wrote on repression in one of the most recent pubs of the Journal of Traumatic Stress. It is interesting, however. Personally, I do believe there are some screwed up therapist out there and have personally treated clients who ahve had these tereible experiences. However, I don not believe that that number acurately points to such a large amount of flase memory that some suggest. I see it as more of a backlash than anything else. Hope this helps some. DAWN :-) ***************************************************************** * Dawn M. Hughes dhughes@alpha.acast.nova.edu * Center for Psychological Studies * * Nova University * * Fort Lauderdale, FL * * * * OF ALL THE THINGS I'VE LOST, I MISS MY MIND THE MOST!!!!!! * ***************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 10:42:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary OSullivan Subject: Re: les-bi-an > >Hello folks. Does anyone know the source - maybe Jill Johnston - of a >line "Every woman can be a les-bi-an" (if I remember aright)? Many >thanks. Daphne >-- >====================== >Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu That line is part of the chorus to an Alix Dobkin song--I can't remember the title, but I think it is one her _Living with Lesbians_ album. I don't know if she originated it. MARYO ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 12:45:02 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Pauline B. Bart" Subject: jb comment quoting farrell re "adolescent" feminists Warren Farrell is no feminist or even pro-feminist. He doesn't think sibling incest is harful. He advertized in the Village VOice for people having "positive" incest experiences, and, according to Judith Herman,, received answers from perps. Women don t leave batterers because their chances of being killed are greater when they leave than if they stay, because the lmen are obsessed with them, follow them, stalk them etc. thERE IS NOTHING adolescent about wanting to save your or your children's lives. I don't know where JB is getting his information about women's condition but most of it is wrong. Most women currently are employed rather than expecting a man to take care of them kfinancially. I knwo that Farrell compares men being success objects with wokmen being sex objects. Its not comparable, even if true, given the violence against women that is endemic and a result of being a "sex object". Pauline B. Bart U17334@UICVM.UIC.EDU (University of Illinois at Chicago) Everything is data, but data isn't everything... Don't kill the messenger! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 15:06:49 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: Re: jb comment quoting farrell re "adolescent" feminists In regard to Pauline Bart's criticism of Farrell (which I share completely) see Susan Faludi's analysis of Farrell in Backlash. I had the same response to the posting about "adolescent feminism"; it sounded a lot like backlashto me. Laurie Finke finkel@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 17:42:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Lee Simon Subject: adolescent feminism Thank you Pauline. Have I blanked a small body of literature? Is there other publication, or others who put forward a category or period of "adolescent feminism"? beth simon blsimon@macc.wisc.edu dictionary of american regional english/dept. of english university of wisconsin-madison ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 20:52:43 LCL Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ruth Ginzberg Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University Subject: Intellectual Isolation A conversation with another feminist colleague at my institution precipitated this question. We've both noticed a very real sense of intellectual isolation, i.e., no one else on our entire campus who is able to read or discuss our work in progress, etc. We noticed that we are expected to be conversant in the areas in which our non-feminist colleagues write & teach, but they aren't even slightly embarrassed to know nothing about our work, and to be in no big hurry to learn, either. This seems like an additional burden on feminist faculty, in addition to all the other usual ones... As a relatively young faculty member (5th year in tenure track job) I am wondering how other feminist faculty deal with this problem. It becomes more important than ever to go to conferences, but often the financial realities of being a young faculty with a relatively low salary and relatively high grad school loans (etc), make this more difficult for us than for some more senior colleagues. What was particularly, well, poignant, was when we both kind of laughed & recognized the feeling of having our most important collegial relations be those we create & maintain via Internet. But, of course, that's not really the same... I am interested in the thoughts, ideas or experiences of other feminist faculty, but if this is better discussed off list, please respond privatly. Thanks. --------------------------------------------- Ruth Ginzberg Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA [Not the US Supreme Court Judge; no relation] ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 22:50:32 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation Ruth's query about intellectual isolation seems like a perfectly appropriate subject for us to talk about so I will get the ball rolling by offering a few thoughts. IN my experience it's a lot easier to create ties with other faculty in a smaller college (I have been teaching in small colleges for about the last nine years). Within a faculty of 100-130 it is a lot easier for colleagues working in feminist research to find one another and to work fairly closely. AT Lewis & Clark I was a member of a feminist research group (we jokingly named ourselves the Pacific Northwest Feminist Think Tank--PNWFTT which sounds like something out of a Burke Breathed cartoon). Each month we read and talked about one members research and these monthly meetings were the most intellectually satisfying times I can remember. No campus politics, no manuevering, just really stimulating and supportive discussion. My research benefitted enormously from these discussions with my colleagues. Much of my most recent publish work was carefully read by these colleages as I read much of theirs. During the eight years I was at LC I never felt intellectually isolated. Well t hat wouldn't be entirely true. I was the college's only medievalist so it was in my field of expertise--medieval studies that I felt the most isolated. Interestingly I can think of only one piece of work on the Middle Ages that this group read--out of perhaps 5 or 6 pieces. I have found similar connections at Kenyon, but that may be primarily because I am directing a program and so I have to spend time cultivating those connections. One method I use is to try to organize at least one day long workshop for faculty interested in the program, usually before school starts, a time for us to get together and share those interests, knowing that once school starts it can be really hard to get together again. Hope these thoughts are useful. Laurie Finke finkel@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 23:05:18 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation >A conversation with another feminist colleague at my institution >precipitated this question. We've both noticed a very real sense of >intellectual isolation, i.e., no one else on our entire campus who is >able to read or discuss our work in progress, etc. We noticed that we >are expected to be conversant in the areas in which our non-feminist >colleagues write & teach, but they aren't even slightly embarrassed to >know nothing about our work, and to be in no big hurry to learn, >either. This seems like an additional burden on feminist faculty, in >addition to all the other usual ones... > [stuff deleted] > >What was particularly, well, poignant, was when we both kind of >laughed & recognized the feeling of having our most important >collegial relations be those we create & maintain via Internet. But, >of course, that's not really the same... >Ruth Ginzberg You have a feminist colleague. How wonderful. I've always felt that having a single colleague with whom I could talk (and collaborate) made it possible for me to enjoy going to work. As Sally Hacker (wish I had the reference here) pointed out 40 years ago, to succeed in academia a feminist must have two careers, a traditional one and the feminist one. It's not fair and it's apparently still true. Being male probably helped, but I survived by having a colleague and (in the old days) lots of letters and phone calls with colleagues at aother places who were in similar situations as me. What helped me was doing what you say is financially difficult to do--I got involvled in national associations. In my case, I became involved in the American Psychological Association division of psychology of women. I was program chair one year and then, in 1977 I think became Secretary-Treasurer. After that I had lots of contacts and lots of support. I'm thinking as I write this, but I believe becoming involved with feminist colleagues at the state, regional, or national level is very important--it provides an area, a space, where one can shed the disguises one wears every day and learn. One suggestion would be to attend NWSA meetings next year if at all possible. Once you've met and worked with like-minded people in person, if only for a few days, the internet messages become more meaningful. This leads me to a new question. Could we start, via WMST-L, a speaker's bureau? A great way to meet people and establish meaningful contacts is to give colloquia. For example, if I knew Ruth's (and others') areas of expertise, when the opportunity arose I could invite her to give a colloquium or visiting scholars lecture or something or other. This is how the "old boys" did it and we can do it too, I think. Arnie fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 21:44:50 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kathryn Kerns Subject: Intellectual Isolation The question Ruth raised about isolation strikes a chord with me as well. I felt it especially when I was at a small college. A bunch of us got together to fight sexual harrassment and that felt good, but we didn't share our research. For me an important lifeline was a regional group of women historians. Some of these women became my closest friends and still offer me vital support. Because it was a regional group--Upstate New York, it was possible to go to conferences and visit friends made there for far less cost than the national conferences, although I did attend the larger conferences and they are important, also. If such a group doesn't exist in your area, you might want to use this list to find others to help you start one. Of course, the other problem is if your colleagues don't understand or even try to understand your research, how do you get tenure? It would be lovely to point out how intellectually lazy they were, but probably not at all productive. I wish you luck and hope others can deal with that one. As a librarian, my tenure process was somewhat different. Kathy Kerns Stanford University cn.kmk@forsythe.stanford.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 22:22:05 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Brenda Brasher Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation In-Reply-To: <9308120451.AB05357@chaph.usc.edu>; from "Kathryn Kerns" at Aug 11, 93 9:44 pm I struggled to adjust to similar feelings of isolation as a feminist graduate student; so I've find it comforting to realize that my own experiences of isolation are not an isolated experience. Thanks to those of you already on faculties who had the courage to speak out about this! Brenda E. Brasher USC ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 11:01:46 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was LANG@LAGON From: Judith Ezekiel Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation As Arnie says, how lucky to have a feminist colleague! Given the current antifeminism here in France (not to be confused with sexism), I certainly relate to Ruth's feelings of intellectual isolation. I'm lucky to have enough support and independence to teach women's studies, but it's a constant fight. The previous two department heads of the the university where I worked up till last June, "in jest" singled out my class on the history of American women as too narrow and inappropriate. (I'm in an English department, which in France, includes American Studies.) In the past, my answer has been to invest all of my energy in women's studies networks. But this leads to marginalization in the department and in American studies networks. I'm hoping to do things differently at my new job. One thing I've done is everytime some sexist act surfaces, I use it as an anecdote in my next article on women's studies in France. It gives me a feeling of power. I also let the previous department head know, "in jest," that if he eliminated my women's studies class, I'd start an international protest campaign. He never mentioned it again. I'm new to this network, but delighted to find it. Judith Ezekiel lang@lagon.biomath.jussieu.fr ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 08:55:23 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Dennis Longmire Subject: Re: false memory The concept of "false memory syndrom" has been used to relate to issues other than child sexual abuse. Elizabeth Loftus's work is the most widely cited that I'm aware of and, as I recall, she includes a wide spectrum of memories that are "false." Most of the publicity she's received has been in the are of mistaken identifications in criminal trials . . . but her work is much more generic. Peace, Dennis ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 12:40:43 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ethel tobach Subject: Anita Hill For those working on the subject: an article by Leola A. Johnson: Journalistic representations of Anita Hill: some observations of women newsworkers. in Nature, Society & Thought, l992, 5, 281-292. et ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 10:50:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mona Acker Subject: App. to Intl. Court of Justice Forwarding message from Kelly Acker who does not have access to the network. She is looking for for assistance (references) in researching the above applica tion in regard to rape in warfare. "I am working with Kathleen Mahoney of the Faculty of Law at the U. of Calgary on an application to the International Court of Justice to have rape, committed againse enemies during warfare, declared a form of genocide and, therefore ill egal under international law. My part of the research includes gender bias in the International Court of Justice rules and procedures, the intent or motives for rape, and the cultural realities with respect to the Muslim women of Yugosl avia. I have the legal part together and am liaising with the 'Yugoslavian' community concerning cultural realities but have not yet had time to look at th e motives for rape, particularly within the context of warfare. We have two we eks to put together the factum so we are all desperate. Do you have any materi al on the topic of the motives of rape (particularly within the context of war fare) or can you direct me to any? If you have any you can provide to me, we c an pay the courier fees. We will have precious little time for good research. "We would greatly appreciate your help. Do you know the names of any experts i n Calgary? Of course our sexual assault center here in Calgary is now defunct. We really need someone who has looked at more than just domestic violence (or rape), although I am quite aware of the overlap." Kelly Acker can be reached by FAX (403)232-7657, phone (403)232-7130 days and (403)283-9728 evenings, or snail mail 927 - 2nd Ave. S.W., Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 0E7. Please respond directly to Kelly. Urgency is critical. Do not respond to me or the network please. Mona Acker acker@uregina1 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 13:27:49 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "KAREN HICKS (KARENH@JOE.ALB.EDU)" <"LUCY::KARENH"@JOE.ALB.EDU> Subject: Help Locating Spinsters Ink Does anyone know if Spinsters Ink is still in business?? I have not been able to get either an address or phone # for them in San Francisco. I am actually trying to find out how to get permission to excerpt a section from Audre Lorde's book *Cancer Journals*. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions about how to proceed? Thanks for your help. Karen M. Hicks Internet address: karenh@joe.alb.edu (Albright College, PO Box 15234, Reading, PA 19612) Tel: 215-921-7886 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 12:34:46 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: CROWDER@CORNELL-IOWA.EDU Subject: French Feminism I am grateful to Judith Ezekiel for her responses to Lissa Bell re. French feminism. This is an area full of misinformation for American feminists, who have received a lot of information about one segment of the movement (Kristeva, Cixous, Irigaray, des femmes, et. al.) but who have not been exposed to the "other" segments of the movement. In particular, there is a strong "materialist feminist" movement in France which has produced much of the best feminist theory and practice coming out of the French movement. I refer to those who were part of the originial Questions Feministes collective, such as Colette Guillaumin, Nicole-Claude Mathieu, Noelle Bisseret, Christine Delphy, and Monique Wittig, among others. It is an interesting question (one to which I have a partial answer, I think) as to why American feminists have gravitated only to one segment of the French movement, when, in my humble opinion, this "other" segment's work is much more promising for our future. I would refer readers especially to the translations of key Questions feministes articles which have appeared in Feminist Issues (especially some early volumes) and the continuing EXCELLENT service Feminist Issues does in bringing us in English the work of European feminists today. I would also refer people to three books in particular, in addition to those mentioned by Judith and others: Wittig, Monique, The Straight Mind (collected essays): Boston, Beacon Press, 1991 (?) (my copy isn't handy for exact date)-- essays from one of the most provocative lesbian theorists I know. (in French) Mathieu, Nicole-Claude, L'anatomie politique: Categorisations et ideologies du sexe (Paris: cote-femmes editions, 1991, ISBN 2-907883-20-8)--collected essays by a noted sociologist and theorist--contains one of the most fundamental articles on the topic of sexual orientation and its relation to identity one can find, "Identite sexuelle/sexuee/de sexe." Guillaumin, Colette, Sexe, Race, et Pratique du pouvoir: L'idee de Nature (Paris: Cote-femmes editions, 1992, ISBN 2-907883-39-9). Guillaumin also has an article (in English) on the social construction of the female body in a new work edited by C. Burroughs and J. Ehrenreich, Reading the Social Body (Iowa City: U. of Iowa Press, 1993) While these references are not directly on the French movement, they do give people a chance to sample the strands of thought coming out of that movement that have been relatively neglected by US feminists. Hope this helps! By the way, don't miss the original statement of purpose of the QF collective, which is reprinted in the Marks and Courtivron collection Lissa mentioned, as well as in Feminist Issues vol. 1, which includes their "take" on the battle with Cixoux, et. al. which occured in the late 1970's. Diane G. Crowder Cornell College Mt. Vernon, IA 52314 CROWDER@CORNELL-IOWA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 13:39:48 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ellen Greenblatt Subject: Re: Help Locating Spinsters Ink In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 12 Aug 1993 13:27:49 -0400 from Spinsters Ink has moved. The new address is: PO Box 300170 Minneapolis, MN 55403 Phone: (612) 377-0287 Good luck with your project -- Ellen Greenblatt ulcreg@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 14:30:32 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: lin collette Subject: women and christianity in latin america In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 11 Aug 1993 17:42:00 CDT from For an advisee of mine, I'm seeking materials on women, development, and Chris- tianity in Latin/Central America. We have done some searches through electron- ic databases, but have come up with almost nothing. Bernie is looking at how Christianity has effected women's development in latin/central america. We are familiar with some of the evangelical feminist publications (Daughters of Sarah for one), and are searching for periodicals such as SOJOURNERS and THE OTHER SIDE which may have some articles, but our search for books and scholarly jour- nal articles has been difficult. Does anyone out there have any ideas? Books? Articles? Please respond privately; I will be glad to provide a list of res- ources if people want it later. lin collette bi599128@brownvm.brown.edu (internet) or bi599128@brownvm (bitnet) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 12:43:52 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation I would second Arnie's idea about establishing a speaker's bureau. I know I am often at a loss to come up with ideas for inviting speakers and having an electronic resource would be really helpful to me. One thing I have found this list most useful for is resources for administering ws programs. This would be another such resource. ,,, (o o) +-------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------------------+ | Laurie Finke, Women's and Gender Studies, Kenyon College | | Gambier, OH 43022 phone: 614-427-5276 | | home: 614-427-3428, P.O. Box 731 mail: FinkeL@Kenyon.Edu | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ () () ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 12:49:45 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation Kathy Kerns' post reminded me that one of the ways that I have been able to avoid isolation at Kenyon is by belonging to the GLCA (Great Lakes Colleges Association) Women's Studies Committee. Since there is no one on my campus in exactly the same position as I am,it's nice that several times a year I can get together with colleagues from similar colleges in similar situations. I learned very quickly how important that kind of support is. ,,, (o o) +-------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------------------+ | Laurie Finke, Women's and Gender Studies, Kenyon College | | Gambier, OH 43022 phone: 614-427-5276 | | home: 614-427-3428, P.O. Box 731 mail: FinkeL@Kenyon.Edu | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ () () ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 15:14:52 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Sherry Linkon Organization: Youngstown State University Subject: Intellectual Isolation A feminist scholar's support group can help alleviate that sense of isolation, as someone here noted today. If you're on a campus with a small faculty and/or few feminists, you might try to contact the women's studies folks at nearby schools and start a group that draws together scholars from different campuses. We had such a group in Denver when I was at MEtro State--it brought together women from across campus, as well as from the entire Denver metro area. Each month we'd read a draft and discuss someone's work, so we all learned about various aspects of women's studies and got to know each other. That group helped me complete a dissertation, even though my grad school colleagues and advisors were 1000 miles away. --Sherry ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 18:37:59 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ruth parlin Subject: Intellectual isolation Perhaps I misunderstood Ruth's message, but I thought at least part of her point was that teachers of women's studies are intellectually isolated from teachers in other disciplines on their own campuses. While its certainly lovely to make connections with academic feminists everywhere, it would be equally lovely to meet, say, chemistry professors on campus who have a strong grasp of feminist issues. The marginalization of women's studies means, as Ruth mentioned, that all other subjects are considered so mainstream that all of us are expected to demonstrate some (fairly high) level of knowledge about them, but that no intellectual shame is attached to being ignorant about feminism. I expect the same could be said about Marxism, albeit to a lesser extent. I run into this problem as a librarian, too. Smart, well-educated people have no hesitancy about saying that they have no idea what librarians do. They would never say that about accountants or nurses, but have no qualms about admitting ignorance about librarianship. This, in my view, is a failure on our part as librarians to educate the public about librarianship. We are now embarked on creating a body of people who understand the fundamental precepts of feminism. Should our colleagues understand it too? Absolutely. The day is not too far off, I hope, when feminist students in engineering classes will insist that their professors address women's issues in class. Sorry for the length of this posting. I guess the issue of mainstreaming feminism in the academy struck a nerve. Cheers, Ruth Parlin University of Miami Law School Library P.O. Box 248087 Coral Gables, FL 33124-8087 305/284-3585 rparlin@umiami.ir.miami.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 20:03:57 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: A Woman's Place A friend of mine sent this to me and I thought I'd share it with the list. It's adapted from a commencement address at Scripps College Arnie A Woman's Place by Naomi Wolf Even the best revolutions can go awry when we internalize the attitudes we are fighting. The class of 1992 is graduating into a violent backlash against the advances women have made over the last 20 years. The backlash ranges from a Senator using "The Exorcist" against Anita Hill, to beer commercials with the "Swedish bikini team." Today I want to give you a backlash survival kit, a four-step manual to keep the dragons from taking up residence inside your own heads. My own commencement at Yale eight years ago was the Graduation from Hell. The speaker was Dick Cavett, rumored to have been our president's "brother" in an all-male secret society. Mr. Cavett took the microphone and paled at the sight of hundreds of female about-to-be-Yale graduates. "When I was an undergraduate" I recall he said "there were no women, The women went to Vassar. At Vassar they had nude photographs taken of the women in gym class to check their posture. One year the photos were stolen and turned up for sale in New Haven's red-light district." His punch line? "The photos found no buyers." I'll never forget the moment. There we were, silent in our black gowns, our tassels, our brand new shoes. We dared not break the silence with hisses or boos, out of respect for our families, who'd come so far; and they kept still out of concern for us. Consciously or not, Mr. Cavett was using the beauty myth aspect of the backlash: when women come too close to masculine power someone will draw critical attention to their bodies. We might be Ella, but we still wouldn't make pornography worth buying. That afternoon, several hundred men were confirmed in the power of a powerful institution. But many of the women felt the shame of the powerless: the choking on silence, the complicity, the helplessness. We were orphaned from our institution. I want to give you the commencement talk that was denied to me. Message No.1 In your survival kit:redefine "becoming a woman." Today you have "become a woman." But that sounds odd in ordinary usage. What is usually meant by "You're a real woman now"? You "became a women" when you menstruate for the first time, or when you lose your virginity, or when you have a child. These biological definitions are very different from how we say boys become men. One "becomes a man" when he undertakes responsibility or completes a quest. But you, too, in some ways more than your male friends graduating today, have moved into maturity through a solitary quest for the adult self. We lack archetypes for the questing young woman, her trials by fire; for how one "becomes a woman" through the chrysalis of education, the difficult passage from one book, one idea to the next. Let's refuse to have our scholarship and our gender piled against us. In our definition, the scholar learns womanhood and the woman learns scholarship; Plato and Djuna Barnes, mediated to their own enrichment through the eyes of the female body with its wisdoms and its gifts. I say that you have already shown courage: Many of you graduate today in spite of post-traumatic stress, syndrome of acquaintance rape, which one- fourth of female students undergo. Many of you were so weakened by anorexia or bulimia that it took every ounce of your will to get your work in. You negotiated private lives through a mine field of new strains of VD and the ascending shadow of AIDS. Triumphant survivors, you have already "become woman." Message No.2 breaks the ultimate taboo for women: Ask for money in your lives. Expect it. Learn to use it. Little girls learn a debilitating fear of money - that it's not feminine to insure we are fairly paid for honest work. Meanwhile, women make 68 cents for every male dollar and half of the marriages end in divorce, after which women's income drops precipitously. Never choose a profession for material reasons. But whatever field your heart decides on, for god's sake get the most specialized training in it you can and hold out hard for just compensation, parental leave and child care. Resist your assignment to the class of highly competent, grossly underpaid women who run the show while others get the cash - and the credit. Claim money not out of greed, but so you can tithe to women's political organizations, shelters and educational institutions. Sexist institutions won't yield power if we are just patient long enough. The only language the status quo understands is money, votes and public embarrassment. When you have equity, you have influence - as sponsors, shareholders and alumnae. Us it to open opportunities to women who deserve the chances you've had. Your B.A. does not belong to you alone, just as the earth does not belong to its present tenants alone. Your education was lent to you by women of the past, and you will give some back to living women, and to your daughters seven generations from now. Message No.3: Never cook for or sleep with anyone who routinely puts you down. Message No. 4: Become goddesses of disobedience. Virginia Woolf wrote that we must slay the Angel in the House, the consort within. Young women tell me of injustice, from campus rape coverups to classroom sexiness. But at the thought of confrontation, they freeze into niceness. We are told that the worst thing we can do is cause conflict, even in the service of doing right. Antigone is imprisoned. Joan of Arc burns at the stake and, someone might call us unfeminine! When I wrote a book that cause controversy, I saw how big a dragon was the paralysis of niceness. "The Beauty Myth" argues that newly ideals of beauty are instruments of a backlash against feminism, designed to lower women's self-esteem for a political purpose. Many positive changes followed the debate. But all that would dwindle away when someone yelled at me - as, for instance, cosmetic surgeons did on TV, when I raised questions about silicone implants. On no, I'd quail, people are mad at me! Then I read something Audrie Lordo. She'd been diagnosed with breast cancer. "I was going to do," she wrote," sooner or later whether or not I have ever spoken about self. My silences has not protected me and your silences will not protect you....." What are the words you do not have? What are the tyrannies you swallow day by day and attempt to make your own, until you sicken and die of them, still in silence? We have been socialized to respect fear more than our own need for language. I began to ask each time: "What's the worst that could happen to me if I tell the truth?" Unlike women in other countries, our breaking silence is not what is likely to have us jailed, disappeared or run off the road at night. Our speaking out will irritate some people, some of us called bitchy or hypersensitive and our speaking out will permit other women to speak, until laws are changed and lives are saved and the world is altered forever. Next time ask: What's the worst that will happen? Then push yourself a little further than you dare. Once you start to speak, people will yell at you. They will interrupt, put you down, and suggest it's personal. An then the world won't end. And the speaking will get easier and easier. And you will find you have fallen in love with your own vision in which you may never have realized you had. And you will lose some friends and lovers, and realize you don't miss them. And new ones will find you and cherish you. And you will still flirt and paint your nails, dress up because I think Emma Goldman said "If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." And at last you'll know with surpassing certainty that only one thing is more frightening than speaking your truth. And that is not speaking. author of the Beauty Myth adapted from a commencement address at Scripps College ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 23:05:59 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Sarah Elizabeth Chinn Subject: Re: Help Locating Spinsters Ink In-Reply-To: <199308121727.AA17600@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu> Spinster's Ink relocated to Minneapolis this past year, so your best bet is to try directory information there, unless there is a sourcebook of feminist presses. A friend of mine works in the women's bookstore in Minneapolis and has some contacts with Spinster's Ink, so if you're still having trouble you can email me privately. Good luck! Sarah Chinn sec8@columbia.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 00:44:05 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 11 Aug 1993 21:44:50 PDT from I believe it was Jessie Bernard, sociologist, who predicted that one day the old mossbacks in the academic departments who have never bother- ed to be "up" on feminist thought will find themselves confronted with a whole generation of graduate students who integrate feminist thought into their overall perspective as a matter of course. Soon after that, the academic professions may increasingly follow suit, as such students join faculties. I suspect this is how mainstreaming will work: not all of us who have grown up alongside of feminist theory will end up in Women's Studies programs--perhaps most of us won't--but I know that as far as my own graduate student cohort is concerned, even those who are unimpressed with feminist theory are fairly well-exposed to it by now, and easily over half of them critique mainstream ideas with feminist insights without bothering to lay out the argument in detail--just a tightly compact key phrase is usually enough for the others to get the point because we're all familiar with it. Ex: "...Yeah, but his theory still takes family for granted" brings nods without the need to explain that so-and-so's notions of family can be criticized for not questioning the patriarchal rather than "eternal-natural" meaning of the family as cultural institution. I think that, for the most part, anyone lacking at least a passing familiarity with feminist thought would often end up going "Huh?" and looking dazed in our midst. This is not to say that the entire depart- ment's supply of grad students ascribe to feminist theory, but even the ones who do not are likely to have heard the arguments given by the rest of us in seminars and in the hallways and in informal conversations. The primary selling point of feminist theory is its elegance as an ex- planatory tool. Despite the fearful hostility it engenders (so to speak) it will be hard to ignore simply because it makes so much sense and clarifies so many things. This is all more true in some disciplines than others. From what I can tell, it is overwhelmingly true in lit crit, partly true in psychology art crit and sociology, and starting to creep into the fields of bio- logy and philosophy. Fields such as physics and engineering and chem- istry probably less so. But if we assume that today's grad students will be at least the day-after-tomorrow's professors, I think it is arriving. [I do, however, wish that the early radical feminist emphasis on people doing theory-as-a-verb from their own experience and trusting their own wisdom instead of worshiping at the feet of experts was a stronger trend among grad students]. - Allan Hunter PS: Guess what! I'm employed, finally! I'm gonna be a social worker! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 10:06:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: RHODA UNGER Subject: Feminism & Psychology I don't know how many people on the list are familiar with a relatively new British journal called Feminism & Psychology so I wanted to let everyone know about it. The most recent issue (June, 1993) includes a reprint of Naomi Weisstein's classic piece "Psychology constructs the female or the fantasy life of the male psychologist (first published in 1968). In celebration of its 25th anniversary, Celia Kitzinger, the editor of the special section, solicited a number of comments on the piece from junior and senior scholars in the U.S., Great Britain, and Australia. Best of all, Naomi contributed a response and afterword which is cogent and humorous despite her long battle with chronic fatigue syndrome. Information on subscribing can be obtained in the U.S. by writing to SAGE Pub. Ltd., P.O. Box 5096, Newbury Park, CA 91359. An earlier issue of this journal had a large number of papers on heterosexuality which has been turned into a book edited by Celia Kitzinger and Sue Wilkinson. And, finally, for those of you who will be in Toronto next week for the meeting of APA, Sue and Celia are presenting a symposium on heterosexuality on Friday afternoon. Hope I see some of you there. Rhoda Unger unger@apollo.montclair.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:51:24 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was LANG@LAGON From: Judith Ezekiel Subject: Re: French Feminism Diane Crowder is quite right to call our attention to the excellent work of the French materialist feminists. I had originally included _Feminist Issues_ as a good source for texts, but I must have cancelled it out without sending it. Just one more point on this: while Diane is correct to acknowledge the work of the early _Questions Feministes_ group, in the same way that one should not reduce the French Movement to Cixous, Kristeva, and Irigaray, one should not think that the _Questions Feminists_ women are our only other intellectuals. The movement here is rich in theoretical production, but, with a few exceptions, feminists are very poor at getting their word out. I was a part of a journal, _la revue d'en face_, which included a number of interesting thinkers, but little or none of their work has been translated. Perhaps we can move on to the question of _why American feminists have embraced l'ecriture feminine_ ? (I don't use the term "French feminism" for Cixous, Kristeva, and Irigaray [the "3 graces," as a friend puts it], since they reject it themselves.) Or, as Claire Moses put it at the last Berks, can we examine how this version of "French feminism" has been _constructed_ in American feminist academe. This is one question that I have been pondering for a long time. I did the comments on Claire's paper on the topic and I am preparing another talk for the fall. So, I do have some ideas, and I can also talk about how l'ecriture feminine has been _exported_. But I would be very happy to get feedback from all of you on this question. It is a significant question in both countries; on my end because the prestige of American women's studies placing such stress on these particular writers ricochets back to France and skews relations here. I will be on vacation from August 17 to September 2 and will suspend WMST-L, but can receive personal mail. Judith Ezekiel lang@falcon.biomath.jussieu.fr ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 12:26:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Christine Smith Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation Although I certainly hope that Allan Hunter's theory comes true--that because grad students are educated feminist theory, eventually it will intergrate into disciplines-- I see no sign of it in my department. I'm a grad student in Social Psychology and, excepting my advisor, the general consensus among both faculty and grad students is that feminist research is frivolous and of no relevance to them. There are a few exceptions, but not enough to make a difference. By the way, most of the grad students in my department are women (80%+). Luckily, I have found a community of feminist academics outside of my department in both the university and outside of it. Without them, I'd have gone crazy years ago. I think one of the best ways to find similar-minded others is to get involved in academic feminist organizations and attend feminist conferences. When you think you are the only one like yourself, it is truly wonderful to go to a conference and see hundereds of like-minded individuals! Christine Smith csmith@vms.cis.pitt.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 14:26:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Gail Wood Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation I think there is still a lot of work to be done before we see transformation. Even people well-grounded in feminism and feminist values will find it daunting to go to universities/colleges where there is retro-sexism. Grades, tenure, comfort-levels, social acceptance are all weapons to be used. There is a great deal of difference between liberal thinking and radicalism. While institutions may have a desire for multiculturalism and feminism, and try to attract people to their areas, unless there is a community where there is a level of acceptance or safety, the world can be a cold and lonely place. I work in a small technical college in a poor rural area. There are three universities/colleges in the town. However, there are some unconscious entrenched ideas about the role of women hereabouts. In observing women students as they use the library and take our classes, I can tell that there is a lot of burn-out coping with the majority white male population. Speaking to classes about feminism I found that even the professors have some attitudes that hearken backwards. And these are the liberals. So while I think it's great that we are training a cadre of students that will demand inclusion, some of them are in for a shock and for a long battle. The important thing is not to give up and to take a rest now and then. Conferences are wonderful. E-mail has been a wonderful connection Gail Wood Director of Libraries & Instructional Technologies SUNY College of Technology @ Alfred Alfred, NY 14802 bitnet: woodg@snyalfva internet: woodg@snyalfva.cc.alfredtech.edu voice: 607-587-4313 FAX: 607-587-4351 ********************************************************************* May you build a ladder to the stars and climb on every rung ----Robert Zimmerman (a.k.a. Bob Dylan) ********************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:14:45 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: sub Nancy Whitt Organization: Samford University cancele ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 10:58:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Victoria Svoboda Subject: Re: false memory >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 19:24:27 -0700 >From: "Bryan Strong: Psychology / UC-Santa Cruz" >Reply-To: Women's Studies List >Sender: Women's Studies List >Subject: false memory >To: Multiple recipients of list WMST-L >Comments: To: WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU > >I have been trying to find research on false memory syndrome as it relates >to child sexual abuse. I have not been successful. Does anyone know of >any research? Thanks ..... > >Bryan Strong >Psychology Board of Studies >University of California-Santa Cruz >bartleby@cats.UCSC.EDU / bartleby@cats.UCSC.BITNET I work at *Changing Men: Issues in Sex, Gender, & Politics*. As a national pro-feminist men's magazine, we receive multiple other men's journals just to see what is out there. One such journal (*Transitions*, I believe) is put out by the National Association of Free Men. To give you an idea of what its about, the last issue had one article claiming that Anita Hill lied and another stating that sexual harassment laws are "ridiculous." A few months ago, they did a huge spread on false memory syndrome related to child abuse. I'm afraid I don't know how to reach them, but this article might be useful. You could also try contacting the False Memory Syndrome Foundation itself. Again, sorry I don't have an address. This whole false memory stuff reminds me of a television show I saw a couple of weeks ago. It was some late night, *Hard Copy* style show talking about false memory syndrome. Did anyone catch it? It was very strange because every person they talked to who believed in false memories blamed *The Courage to Heal* by Ellen Davis and Laura Bass for the syndrome, all the while holding the book like it was a showpiece. Strange. Hope some of this helps. Tori Victoria A. Svoboda, Dept. of Women's Studies 209 North Brooks Street, UW-Madison, (608) 263-2190 Internet: TORI@macc.wisc.edu Bitnet: TORI@wiscmacc ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:11:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Lee Simon Subject: spinsters In Andrea Fleck Clardy's reference *Words to the Wise: A writer's guide to feminist and lesbian periodicals and publishers* 3rd revised edition, I find Spinters Book Company, P. O. Box 410687, 223 Mississippi Street, San Francisco CA 94141, 415-558-9655. Is this, perhaps the same or a newer name for Spinsters Ink? beth simon blsimon@macc.wisc.edu dictionary of american regional english/english department university of wisconsin-madison ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:13:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Lee Simon Subject: spinsters sorry, can't type. It's Spinsters Book Company beth ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 20:46:32 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Victoria L Herring Subject: Marginalization I am a feminist & lawyer and am involved in some cases which will require educating a jury about the concept of marginalization of women, minimalization etc. - of subtle ways of placing women in subordinate positions. My particular concern is with women in higher education but this is an issue of broader import. I would like to have persons provide me with references, resources, ideas of knowledgeable people to brainstorm with, etc. Many thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 14:03:17 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mindy Fiala Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation Just want to say that I completely agree with Allan Hunter. Feminist critique has permeated the academic mainstream in just the way Allan says. 25 years ago, when I was first in the academic world, there were few women professors, no, or virtually no women texts, and questions in class from a woman's perspective were ridiculed, stared down, and given low or failing grades - "obviously, she's not qualified for further study!" Mindy Fiala ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 17:02:08 EDT Reply-To: joforgot@aol.com Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joe Cheng Subject: pro-woman line I've just been reading _Daring to Be Bad: Radical Feminism from 1967-1975_. Can anyone tell me, privately, where I can find out whatever has happened to the "pro-woman line" in radical feminism? I see its disappearance as a possible factor in feminism's re-cooptation by the left in the mid-seventies. I see in its disappearance the vacuum which Schlafly's Positive Woman could step in to exploit, providing what the pro-woman line would have provided, but at an extortionary cost to women. I see in its disappearance the loss of libertarian women's support of feminism. I see in its disappearance the cause of unnecessarily compromising responses made by anti-femitorture movements to misogynist upside-down questions like "Why do women stay?" and "Why don't women tell?" and "How does pornography or prostitution hurt anybody?" I see in its disappearance the vacuum in which ambivalent or downright misogynist movements like the co-dependency movement and the mediation movement (e.g. Warren Farrel) have had so much success in selling to women some of the consciousness-affirming aspects of pro-woman radical feminism at an extortionary mental, social, economic and temporal cost. I see in its disappearance the failure to recognize immediately the legitimacy in women's solidarity with men in communities oppressed by the triumph of Anglo patriarchy over other patriarchies. A pro-woman line would eventually have analyzed African-American women's solidarity with African-American men by recognizing how these men are often treated misogynistically, which is to say how these men are victimized AS WOMEN, by Anglo men and their institutions. Solidarity with these men as feminized victims of an imperialist patriarchy, and valorizing these men AS WOMEN against all oppression, could then be distinguished from backlash attempts to buttress these men AS MEN by supporting their useless patriarchy-against-patriarchy revolution, by which they aim to reclaim and valorize their lost and defeated masculinity and its patriarchal utopian delusions. And instead of the leftist compromise of "interlocking" race-class-gender oppression, we might have further advanced the radical feminist tracing of all seemingly disparate oppressions to masculinity (in ALL its competing variations) as their single root cause, thus allowing not only solidarity against masculinity across color, culture, sexual practice, and class, but across species and genital formation as well. Can anyone help me develop further or develop out of this line of thinking? Please do not hesitate to help me in either way of development, or others, all of which I'm open to. This will work into my Masters' Thesis on aspects of the battered women's movement relating to the philosophy of law. Please answer privately. Joe Cheng joforgot@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 17:11:46 LCL Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ruth Ginzberg Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University Subject: Re: Intellectual Isolation >Just want to say that I completely agree with Allan Hunter. Feminist >critique has permeated the academic mainstream in just the way Allan >says. 25 years ago, when I was first in the academic world, there were >few women professors, no, or virtually no women texts, and questions >in class from a woman's perspective were ridiculed, stared down, and >given low or failing grades - "obviously, she's not qualified for further >study!" Alas, this is still true in some disciplines, more so than in others. In fact, the most senior member of my own department still believes this about philosophy, and is dead set against me (or any other feminist philosopher) getting tenure because of it. [Sorry if it is a faux pas to post this publicly to an international list, but whose interests am I protecting by "keeping it all in-house"? Kind of reminds me of when Domestic Abuse was something that wasn't supposed to be discussed in public.] --------------------------------------------- Ruth Ginzberg Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA [Not the US Supreme Court Judge; no relation] ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 17:17:56 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Selma Singer Subject: NWSA conference I am brand new to Internet and to this list. It may be that this subject has already been discussed but I would love it if some of you could tell me what happened at the 1994 NWSA conference in Wash. I attended NWSA conferenes for about 8 years and really have missed them for the last couple of years. I've been wondering about the future of the organization and how this conferencemay have been different or the same as the old ones. I also wonder if there are members of this list that I may know from the conferences I have attended in the past. Selma Singer Northern Essex Community College Haverhill, MA 01830 ssinger@rcnvms.rcn.mass.edu