WMST-L LOG9308A ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 00:46:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Format for WMST-L messages (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section one: 1) "IS THERE A PREFERRED FORMAT TO USE FOR MESSAGES SENT TO THE LIST (I.E., TO WMST-L@UMDD OR WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU)?" Yes. First of all, ALWAYS put your name and e-mail address at the end of every posting. (It is important that people be able to contact you privately if they wish, and some mail systems do not identify the writer anywhere in the header.) Also, please include a meaningful subject heading, so that people will know whether your message deals with a topic of interest to them. Finally, if you are replying to someone else's posting, briefly quote or summarize that posting before you offer your reply. Doing so will make your message clearer and avoid confusion. (New subscribers are continually joining the list; they may not have read the original message. And since a number of topics are often being discussed on the list at any given moment, even long-time subscribers may not remember what prompted your remarks unless you remind them.) ******************* Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 00:35:44 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: A TERMINAL THOUGHT Organization: University of Canterbury, NZ Subject: Looking for an address Is there anyone there who has an e-mail address for Kathy Peiss who teaches history - I think at Massachusetts? Thanks Debra Boyask University of Canterbury New Zealand ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 08:40:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: LISTSERV or WMST-L? (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section two, on the difference between listserv and wmst-l: 2) "WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LISTSERV@UMDD AND WMST-L@UMDD? HOW DO I TELL WHICH ADDRESS TO USE?" WMST-L@UMDD (or WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU on Internet) should be used ONLY for messages that you wish to send to all WMST-L subscribers. Messages concerning your WMST-L subscription should be sent to LISTSERV@UMDD (or, on Internet, LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU). 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Instead, send it to the list owner, Joan Korenman [KORENMAN@UMBC (Bitnet) or KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU (Internet)]. ****************** Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 08:16:06 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SUE MANSFIELD Subject: POLITICAL NOVELS Sorry to be so late on this topic, but I've been trying to think of a novel by a woman which was comparable to "The Last Hurrah" or "Mockingbird" in its focus on the nitty-gritty of governmental politics. I find it interesting that it is so hard to find an American feminist novel that has such a character - and telling. And then I read Margaret Maron's "The Bootlegger's Daughter" set in an imaginary county just south of Raleigh, N.C. The heroine/amateur investigator is also a lawyer running for a county judgeship - and the election and murder investigation are intertwined. Makes a nice contrast with both Hurrah and Mockingbird - both in terms of what has changed and what has remained the same. (Also concerned with homophobia and its costs!) Good luck. Sue (SMANSFIELD@BENSON.CLAREMONT.EDU) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 13:50:56 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kamini Grahame Subject: Women and work text needed asked to teach. Any suggestions? Send replies to: PGrahame@Bentley.bitnet Thank you. Kamini ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 14:18:43 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: micki korp Subject: Re: Matrilineal does NOT mean 100% peaceful In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 30 Jul 1993 16:02:00 EDT from On Fri, 30 Jul 1993 16:02:00 EDT mh90 said: > >Being Cherokee (an Iroquoian language, different enough to make one suspect >the Cherokee were dominated in the long past by one or more of the other >tribes), I, too, have mixed feelings about the Confederacy, but must note >that: > >1. it is often taught, in Indian Studies or Native American Studies or >Ethnic Studies classes, that the Confederacy was the model for the US >Constitution; In fact this is now part of the NY State educational curriculum, which is why it is good to check out Axtell on that point. He thinks the influence has been much overstated. >2. in classes where feminism is highly resented/taboo, the matrilineality is >not mentioned (or wasn't, unless I was teaching the course), which distorts >the whole situation; True enough, or you get the absolute reverse: some will argue that women have ALWAYS made all the decisions--hence respect for the earth, Mother Earth, etc.--in all the many different First Peoples of North America, thereby creating yet another stereotype. Sam Gill's controversial historiography study, Mother Earth (University of Chicago, 1987) is well worth looking at here. My own study does not show a universal concept called Mother Earth, either then or now, certainly not in the Old World "goddess" sense. What is true is an increasing belief or certainty that these beliefs have always been held: that's a faith position, theAlogy, not history of religion. >3. in classes where feminists were present, they did tend to assume that the >matrilineal/matrilocal nature of these tribes made them pacifists somehow, >and had to be convinced otherwise (often at great length) Exactly so, and that is why I've interjected at such length. >It has always been *my* impression that the women are the more ferocious, at >least among Eastern Cherokee, and not pacifists at all! Besides, with the >Confederacy, women *approved* or *disapproved* the men who served, and may >well have also served as something like the Supreme Court in deciding who >among prisoners should live or die. I am not sure if it is a matter of sex or not. I think the issue might divide along the lines of hunting vs. agriculture. Hunting groups were generally smaller, far less hierarchical (if at all), and lived rather lightly on the land (well, mostly, if one overlooks major exceptions like Head-Smashed-In-Buffalo-Jump). Agricultural groups were quite different. I suspect it was the need to be moving about every six or seven years which brought them into conflict with others. The Iroquois et al. corn-growing connexion between the eastern woodlands peoples and the Valley of Mexico has not been worked out at all, either. But on the other hand....I am just remembering a classmate of mine who told me that her mother was a ninth-generation Wampanoag clan mother. The role of women may matter even more than how the land is used because it is usually the women who remember the stories longest (the missionaries and government officials tended historically to direct their efforts towards the men). best wishes, Maureen Korp, PhD University of Ottawa ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 22:40:10 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Patrick Subject: Call for papers--SHARP SECOND ANNUAL CONFERENCE: SOCIETY FOR THE HISTORY OF AUTHORSHIP, READING AND PUBLISHING CALL FOR PAPERS The second annual conference of the Society for the History of Authorship, Reading and Publishing will meet 14-16 July 1994 at the Center for the Book, Library of Congress, in Washington, DC. SHARP welcomes proposals for papers dealing with the creation, diffusion, or reception of the written word in any historical period. Conference proceedings will be in English, but papers may deal with any national literature. There are no limitations on topics, but we may organize special panels on publishers' archives, electronic publishing, "little magazines" and other literary periodicals, pedagogy in book history, and ongoing collaborative research projects. Proposals (two pages maximum) and inquiries concerning the conference itself should be sent to our conference host, John Y. Cole, Director, Center for the Book, Library of Congress, Washington, DC 20540, USA, telephone 202-707-5221. The deadline is 10 December 1993. SHARP is an interdisciplinary, international society of book historians, open to academic and nonacademics alike. The membership fee for one year is $15 US/Canada, $20 elsewhere; for two years, $25 US/Canada, $35 elsewhere. If you want to join SHARP or receive a sample copy of the SHARP quarterly newsletter, contact Prof. Jonathan Rose, History Department, Drew University, Madison, NJ 07940, USA. British residents can join by sending a check for L10 (one year) or L17 (two years) to Dr. Simon Eliot, The Open University, 4 Portwall Lane, Bristol BS1 2EP, UK. * * * ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 00:42:17 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kamini Grahame Subject: women and work text needed Sorry but the first sentence of my earlier message seemed to have disappeared. I have been asked to teach a sociology course on women and work. I'm looking for a recent reader. Any suggestions? Respond to PGrahame@Bentley.bitnet Thank you. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 01:03:04 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: 716Rbh <716rbh%ptsmhs@PTSMAIL.PTSEM.EDU> Subject: women and work text...Reply > Sorry but the first sentence of my earlier message seemed to have > disappeared. I have been asked to teach a sociology course on women > and work. I'm looking for a recent reader. Any suggestions? Respond to > PGrahame@Bentley.bitnet > Thank you. > Women's Studies List ======================================================================== Are you thinking of US or global? I may have some references from a cultural anthropology and theology course I took last year - pretty leftist - on the global situation. I may also be able to find some other information along feminist lines, but probably not a basic text. Let me know if you are interested in this type of information. - RB Hoffman - 716rbh@ptsmail.ptsem.edu Reply By: 716RBH@PTSMHS (ROBIN B. HOFFMAN) [08/03/93 01:03:03 am] ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 07:50:28 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Rushing Subject: Re: women and work text needed In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 3 Aug 1993 00:42:17 -0400 from Try Amott and Matthaei, Race, Gender, & Work (South End Press). Also Sacks and Remy (eds.), My Troubles Are Going to Have Trouble With Me: Everyday Trials and Triumphs of Women Workers (Rutgers U.). I've used the Amott & Matthaei in a graduate seminar with good luck, and I believe that undergraduates would have no trouble with it. I've used selections from Sacks and Remy in an undergraduate soc. of work course, with great success. Both are in paperback. Good Luck. Beth Rushing Dept. of Sociology Kent State University ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 07:47:22 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Iana Pattatucci Subject: A warm thank you .... Hello everyone. I am sorry to clutter up the list with not one but two personal messages, but I hope that you will see these as worthy exceptions. So many of you wrote to me expressing simultaneous concern and congratulations that I just wanted to say thanks. I haven't much to say except that it has apparently been a blessing that there have been a host of far more pressing issues for our congress to deal with than research at the NIH. I should point out that our study was done by the book: a proposal written that passed through all of the proper channels. It was approved during the Bush administration right up to Bernadine Healey, then Director of the NIH, and Sullivan, Health and Human Services Director. We have the avid support of our colleagues and Director of the National Cancer Institute. Thanks again for the warm thoughts. The message that follows is something that I wanted you all to know about. It is titled "A Very Special Story". By the way, I'M BACK ON THE LIST! iana pattatucci "luciana%bchem.dnet@dxi.nih.gov" formerly "angela%bchem........." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 08:00:28 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Iana Pattatucci Subject: A Very Special Story Once there was a young girl, frightened and full of rage. Having been horrifyingly abused by her parents, she assumed that she was unworthy of being loved and loathed herself. Her name is Angela and she responded by shutting off from a world in which the only things she had known were excruciating pain and betrayal. Because of her silence and inability to be interactive with others, she was labeled "mentally retarded" by the school system and thus had little in the way of social skills and functional literacy. After leaving home at 14, she found herself homeless in the area of Clark Street and Belmont in Chicago, Illinois. She was wild and unruly, trusted no one and had a severe addiction to alcohol. It was here that she met Ray. Ray was a simple man, 30 years her senior, also with little in the way of functional literacy. This meant that he was resigned to working jobs paying little money and requiring hard manual labor. At the time that his path crossed that of Angela, he had given up on life as well. Ray had been devastated by the loss of an 8 year relationship and had wound up in a condemned sleeping room hotel (rooms still being rented by a slum lord). At 45, Ray had gone there to die, and spent his days lying in bed, high on whatever was available, waiting for death to come for him. Upon meeting Angie (as Ray called her), Ray became overwhelmed with grief as he heard her recount how her parents had treated her. He decided that there was a beautiful girl inside the rough-edged exterior that she presented and that she deserved a chance at life. With that motivation, he left his bed and his high and went out and found a job, later rented an apartment not much better than the sleeping room that he left, but somewhat larger, found Angie and offered her a home. She was resistant and full of fear that he would do similar things to her that her natural father had done, but she lived a very dangerous existence in the streets and finally resolved that it was better to take a chance with one man than to take a chance with hundreds in the streets. Thus, suspicious and fearful, she moved in with Ray. Things didn't go well at first. Bringing Angie into that apartment was somewhat like finding a wild cat and expecting it to act like one that has been domesticated. She particularly resisted when Ray insisted that she go to school and get an education -- something that he didn't have. She almost ran away again. However, Ray was a supportive and gentle man. He was a stabilizing influence in her life, the first opportunity that she had to experience genuine love. Thus, she attended school for him, did horribly poor because she had so many deficits, but finally graduated high school when she was about 19 1/2. During these years, the two developed a very close father and daughter relationship. They became each other's family. Ray was the father that Angie had only dreamed existed for other people. He devoted his life to her, helping her to overcome her addictions and later was there for her during a period of mental illness and institutionalization in her early 20's. When she was let out, Ray encouraged her to make something of her life. He recognized that she was talented and had a vision that she could do "great things" with an education. Thus, he encouraged her to go to nursing school and supported her when she tried. But before she could be accepted, she was informed that she would have to make up her educational deficits. Dejected, Angie would have given up right then if it hadn't been for Ray's constant encouragement and support. With Ray spearing her on, she spent nearly 3 years in adult remedial education and then a year in nursing school. Tragically, Angie was overcome by past unresolved abuse issues again, and was again institutionalized. However, undaunted after her release, Ray again encouraged her to attend school. She reluctantly did, again with his support, and this time succeeded spectacularly, graduating from Northeastern Illinois University Magna Cum Laude and then being conferred with a doctorate from Indiana University. Of course, during this time, things began to shift. Ray became older and eventually retired about midway through Angie's undergraduate degree. When she finished and learned of being accepted into the graduate program at Indiana, Angie could have simply said goodbye and thanks to Ray. However, this was impossible and unthinkable for her. Ray was her father; her family. She was committed to him having as rich and full an old age as possible, full of integrity and dignity. Thus, she brought him to Bloomington, Indiana and graduate school with her. After finshing there, she also brought him to Rockville, Maryland with her when she took a postdoctoral position at the National Institutes of Health. Ray loved children and had a special rapport with them. Interestingly, he had a similar relationship with dogs. It was probably that he was so free to give love to others. After retirement, Ray spent two years building and selling bookcases while Angie finished school. He hauled the wood and materials 6 city blocks by hand to their apartment in the Humboldt Park neighborhood in Chicago. There, he hand-made book cases with only the most primative of tools (hammar, drill, saw and sandpaper). Ray took tremendous pride in his work as did Angela and every Saturday she would help him carry them down 3 flights of stairs to the street, where Ray sat outside all day waiting for interested parties to stop. However, Ray was a much better craftsman than a businessman. He was so good-natured that he always wound up giving people breaks on the price as they told him their stories. Thus, for all of his hard work, he financially just about broke even. However, it was fulfilling for him and therefore was a rich experience. Upon moving to Bloomington, In. the two were in an apartment not amenable to Ray's bookcase-building enterprise. Thus, Ray became involved in recycling. He developed a regular route that he walked daily picking up aluminum cans. He became so popular with the students and people in the neighborhood that he became affectionately known as "Ray the can man". People saved cans for him, and before his health began to fail and he had to stop walking his route, Ray had recycled nearly 8 tons of aluminum cans. This essentially ruined the back seat and trunk of their car, which Angie used to transport the cans to the recycling facility sometimes as many as 5 times a week, and there was a constant stench of stale beer, but this was her way of giving back to Ray, nurturing his sense of dignity and integrity. Most of all, Ray was proud of his daughter. He told anyone who would listen about her (and sometimes even those who didn't care to listen - *smile*). He attended every softball and volleyball game that she ever played and not only avidly cheered for her, but cheered for every woman on both teams! Angie's greatest wish was for Ray to see the completion of her education, because she saw this as his accomplishment as well. This wish came true when Ray was escourted to a prime seat in the center of a large meeting room in Jordan Hall on the Indiana University campus, where he sat surrounded by scientists and graduate students and proudly watched his daughter successfully defend her doctoral dissertation. The dedication page of her dissertation reads as follows: "The leader of the band is tired, and his eyes are growing old. .... .....My life has been a poor attempt, to imitate the man. I am a living legacy to the leader of the band." Dan Fogelberg, 1981 I dedicate this dissertation to Raymond Edwood Biever whose unfailing support and constant encouragement made all of this possible. I love you Papa. Ray Biever's life took a very different and unexpected direction because he meet an angry young girl nearly 30 years ago. I was that girl and Ray dedicated his life to me in unconditional fatherly love. He gave me more than I can express in words. Suffice it to say that I am who I am today because of Ray Biever. I learned how to receive and give love from him, something that he gave freely and with great enthusiasm. Ray was a man who after meeting that angry young girl, devoted his life to giving me a loving home and father. He gave me my life. Ray Biever is the greatest man I have ever known. Ray Biever died yesterday, August 1st, at Holy Cross Hospital of Silver Spring Maryland. His last seven months were spent in great physical agony and pain and he now has peace and rest. In keeping with his love for young people and recognizing what he did for me, I request that contributions in his name (size of contribution is unimportant) be sent to Sexual Minority Youth Action League (SMYAL), 333 1/2 Pennsylvania Ave., S.E., 3rd Floor, Washington, D.C. 20003-1148. (SMYAL is a support organization for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual youth). In loving memory of my father, Ray Biever, "Goodbye Papa. You did well." iana pattatucci "iana@glib.org" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 09:20:30 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Erin HEwitt Subject: Stereotypes in fiction I'm working with a Master's student who has been doing analysis of types of conversation in contemporary best selling fiction, and comparing lesbian/gay and straight novels. Her difficulty lies in the straight novels: she has found very rigid gender stereotyping, including the fact that there are almost no conversations in these books (e.g., Danielle Steele, Tom Clancy) between two women. Virtually all conversations occur between two men or a man and a woman. We are both psychologists and are looking for help with references outside psychology on the presentation of women in fiction, particularly any reference to their invisibility. Thanks in advance for any help. Please reply privately to: ECHEWITT@VM1.YORKU.CA ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 09:35:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Authorization to post messages (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section three: 3) "I'VE TRIED TO POST A MESSAGE TO THE LIST, BUT I RECEIVED A MESSAGE BACK SAYING THAT I'M NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO SO. I'M A SUBSCRIBER--WHY WAS I TOLD I'M NOT AUTHORIZED?" Only people whom the LISTSERV software recognizes as subscribers can post messages on WMST-L. To subscribe, send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet): SUB WMST-L Your Name (e.g., SUB WMST-L Jane Smith). If you've already subscribed to WMST-L and you run into problems, chances are that you subscribed under a different address than the one from which you sent your recent message--e.g., you subscribed under your Bitnet address and then sent a message from your Internet address. The LISTSERV software recognizes subscribers by their e-mail address. If you subscribe under a Bitnet [or Internet] address, you have to send all messages to LISTSERV and WMST-L from that same address. If you are unsuccessful posting a message to the list's Bitnet address, try sending the message to the list's Internet address. ****************** Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 09:44:11 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: carole marmell Subject: Re: A Very Special Story In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 3 Aug 1993 08:00:28 -0400 from All I can think to say publicly (in addition to crying my eyes out) is that Iana, you gave life to Ray, also. Bless you both. Carole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ carole nadelman marmell, m.s.w. houston, texas socwlr@uhupvm1 (bitnet) or @uhupvm1.uh.edu (internet) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 12:49:31 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: NAME Subject: Re: women and work text needed In addition to Amott & Matthaei and Sacks & Remy, I've used selections from Lourdes Beneria and Catharine Stimposon's Women, Households, and the Economy (Rutgers U.P., 1987) with undergraduates. Kristin Esterberg, Sociology Dept., Univ. of Missouri-KC ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 10:54:23 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Bev Wessel Subject: JOB OPENING Women Studies Program at the University of Washington is searching for a tenure-track Assistant Professor to begin fall 1994. Applicants should have the Ph.D. degree and be highly qualified for undergraduate and graduate teaching and independent research. Women Studies is seeking a feminist scholar with interdisciplinary interests in racism and anti-racism. Disciplinary background open. Will teach courses in area of specialization and should be capable of teaching "Introduction to Women Studies." Applications, including a curriculum vitae, statement of research and teaching interests, and three letters of recommendation should be sent to Professor Susan Jeffords, Director of Women Studies, University of Washington, GN-45, Seattle, WA 98195. Priority will be given to applications received before November 15, 1993. The University of Washington is building a culturally diverse faculty and strongly encourages applications from female and minority candidates. AA/EOE. If you know the names of particular scholars whom we should contact, please let us know. Thank you. Bev Wessel, Program Coordinator Women Studies, Univ of Wash. wessel@u.washington.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 14:13:21 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Consuelo Lopez Springfield Subject: Re: women and work text needed THere are also useful texts such as "Muchachas No More" and "Maid in the U.S.A." showing Latinas in the workforce. Consuelo Lopez Springfield Latin American and Caribbean Studies Indiana University cspringf@ucs.indiana.edu cspringf@iubacs.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 15:50:32 +0501 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kathryn Wall Subject: Touching Story The preface message to the touching story posted today apologized for taking up our e-mail boxes with 2 non-academic postings to the women's studies list -- I don't know how anyone who read it could do anything other than feel for and reach out to the author. If we become so buried in academia that these types of stories fail to resonant and to deserve our attention, then we need to reevaluate our commitments to one another. To the poster -- I'll be thinking of you today and of the goodness and love that you and Ray shared with one another. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:52:55 -0400 Reply-To: korenman@UMBC.BITNET Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Re: Touching Story In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Tue, 03 Aug 1993 15:50:32 +0501" <01H1BBQJOGUA0000H1@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU> Earlier today, Kathryn Wall wrote: > The preface message to the touching story posted today apologized for > taking up our e-mail boxes with 2 non-academic postings to the women's > studies list -- I don't know how anyone who read it could do anything > other than feel for and reach out to the author. I too was deeply moved by Iana's story, and I told her so--privately. I would urge others who wish to communicate with Iana to send their messages just to her, NOT TO WMST-L. She provided her address at the end of her message: iana@glib.org. WMST-L now has almost 1900 subscribers. If only a tenth of us sent our messages of support and sympathy to Iana via WMST-L, we'd all receive almost 200 messages from WMST-L just on this one topic! That's clearly not desirable. So please--be considerate of other WMST-L subscribers and send private messages privately. Many thanks. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc P.S. If for any reason you find yourself unable to send the message privately, ask the computer support people at your institution for help. Do not send private messages to WMST-L. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 20:00:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LAURA KRAMER Subject: Re: Women and work text needed A couple (or three?) months ago, I asked about women and work texts, for a sociology course with an interdisciplinary bent. i WILL post to the list, havent' done so, as I'd promised. Perhaps Kamini and I will merge the suggestions that we have gotten privately. Laura Kramer kramer@apollo.montclair.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 20:32:08 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beatrice Kachuck Subject: Re: Gender texts In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 31 Jul 1993 15:28:14 -0400 from in response to the inquiry for a textbook on gender/heterosexuality: a text (not book) is the summer, 1991, vol 5 issue of differences, titled queer theory lesbian and gay sexualities. to understand hetero, i think we need to consider the `other' also see adrienne rich's compulsory heterosexuality, an essay, con troversial. beatrice ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 21:00:39 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beatrice Kachuck Subject: Re: women and work text needed In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 3 Aug 1993 07:50:28 EST from on women and work texts: alice kessler-harris's out to work remains a good hist ory of wage earning women in this country. jaqueline jones's labor of love, la bor of sorrow focuses on black women in this country, romanticizes the men's mi sdeeds, i think. for a global view, consider maria mies, patriarchy and accumul ation on a world scale: women in the international division of labor and, when i've taught this kind of course for undergraduates, i asked the students to int erview women about their work and lives, women to whom they could return as new questions emerged for them (the students) as the course developed. many chose their mothers. we gave class time for oral reports and comments, questions for others before a written report was done. for most students, this was a highli ght of the course, political economy of women in the u. s. i'll probably teach the course again next year - not sure what i'll do. beatrice ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 08:24:32 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jane Elza Subject: Re: women's centers In-Reply-To: <9308032121.AA28451@umd5.umd.edu> someone asked about starting women's centers. I just got in the mail an announcement that the national association of women's centes is holding its biannual national conference July 21-24 in Utica, NY. The theme is nuts and bolts: building better communities centered on women. For conference ino call Karen hagearty (315) 737-7855 or write Cheryl Wilkinson Utica College Women's Center, Box 84, utica College of Syracuse University, Utica, NY 13502 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 22:18:07 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Cohen Subject: Urgent request for BSRI-short form For my dissertation study, I plan to assess gender role with the Bem Sex Role Inventory (which I prefer to the Personal Attributes Questionnaire), but all of my questionnaires together took too long in my pilot test, so I need to cut length. Yesterday, I read that there is a short version of the BSRI, consisting of 30 items instead of 60, but I don't know where to find it quickly. And I am unfortunately in a BIG rush: I begin collecting data August 13th. PLEASE, does anyone out there have a copy of the short form of the BSRI? If you do, could you please it to me by e-mail or fax ASAP? Thank you so much. Beth Cohen, PhD Candidate, Counseling Psychology University of Missouri-Columbia internet: bethc@fcm.missouri.edu bitnet: c508371@mizzou1.missouri.edu fax: 314-884-6172 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 09:05:29 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Vicki Kirsch Subject: Women's Centers I, too, received the mailing from the National Association of Women's Centers. Is anyone on the list familiar with the organization and/or attended a previous conference? I'm also curious about there only being a membership schedule for "centers" and "institutions" but no mention of individual membership. Vicki Kirsch vlkirs@wmvm1 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 09:08:55 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Vicki Kirsch Subject: Goddard College Hi. I just accepted a position on the Associate Faculty at Goddard College and am wondering if anyone on the list is also a member or is a full-time faculty member there. Please contact me privately. Vicki Kirsch College of William and Mary vlkirs@wmvm1 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:29:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: WMST-L digest and index (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section five, information that may be especially useful when mail volume picks up in the fall: 5) "DOES WMST-L EXIST IN A DIGEST OR INDEX FORMAT?" Yes. If you choose the digest option, each day you will receive one large file containing most of the WMST-L messages of the past day (messages that should not have been sent to the list to begin with are omitted). On days when the mail volume warrants it, I'll break the digest into several files rather than one; you'll automatically receive them all. If you would like to receive the daily digest file rather than individual mail messages, you should send the following 2-line e-mail message to LISTSERV@UMDD (if your WMST-L subscription is under your Bitnet address) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if your subscription is under your Internet address): AFD ADD WMST-L PACKAGE SET WMST-L NOMAIL Note: If you've subscribed on Bitnet, the digest may arrive as a file rather than as an e-mail message. If you don't know how to receive a file, see section 11 of the WMST-L User's Guide or ask the computer support people at your institution. If you'd prefer to receive the digest(s) inside mail message(s), alter the abovementioned AFD ADD statement to read as follows: AFD ADD WMST-L PACKAGE F=MAIL . However, even if you receive the digest(s) as mail messages, YOU CANNOT REPLY AUTOMATICALLY! If you wish to reply to a message in the digest, you must start a new message and address it either to WMST-L or to the individual. Also, LISTSERV may ask you to set up an AFD password. You're best off not doing so. Finally, if at some point you wish to STOP receiving the digest, either temporarily or permanently, send LISTSERV a message that says AFD DEL WMST-L PACKAGE . If you find the amount of mail from WMST-L daunting, even in digest form, you can arrange to receive just an Index of the day's WMST-L messages; the Index includes the name/email address of the writer, the subject header she/he has provided, the number of lines, and a message number for each message. It is send out shortly after midnight (Maryland time) and looks something like this: Index Date Size Poster and subject ----- ---- ---- ------------------ 06154 02/26 8 From: JLONG@SUVM.BITNET Subject: lesbian reference work 06155 02/26 7 From: Amy Kastely Subject: Women's Centers 06156 02/26 40 From: dklein@TRITON.UNM.EDU Subject: Menopause refs 06157 02/26 19 From: Phyllis Holman Weisbard Subject: menopause 06158 02/26 17 From: P_CAPLAN@UTOROISE.BITNET Subject: library research vs asking the list Suppose you decide that you're interested in seeing the two menopause messages. You can tell listserv to send just those two messages, which are numbered (in the left-hand column) 06156 and 06157. To get these two messages, you have to FORWARD the entire index back to LISTSERV, with one line changed. Near the bottom of the Index, you'll see some lines that look like this: // JOB Database search DD=Orders //Orders DD * Select * in WMST-L.6153-6174 Print /* // EOJ The line you have to change is the one that says: Print You have to change that to read: Print 06156, 06157 Then forward the entire message back to listserv. (The reason you should use the FORWARD function rather than the REPLY function is that many systems add >s when you reply but not when you forward, and the >s confuse listserv.) Listserv will then send you the messages you specify; they will come in a mail message (if you're using Internet) or as a file called DATABASE OUTPUT (if you're using Bitnet). If you don't know how to "receive" a file, see section 11 of the WMST-L User's Guide or ask the computer support people at your institution for help. Contact them also if you have problems forwarding messages. To arrange to get the INDEX rather than individual mail messages (you can't get both--it's an either/or arrangement), simply send a message to LISTSERV@UMDD (if you receive WMST-L at a Bitnet address) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if you receive WMST-L at an Internet address) that says SET WMST-L INDEX . If you decide at some point that you want to stop the index, send a message that says SET WMST-L MAIL (if you want to go back to individual mail messages) or SET WMST-L NOMAIL (if you want no mail at all from the list). Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 10:33:39 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Shirley Scritchfield Subject: List of Programs I need a list of women's studies programs ASAP. As I am not part of such a program, I do not have access to same. Know that NWSA publishes a directory--and will order. But, I need to get my hands on a list sooner than I can get through pre-paid mail. Have checked libraries in area--no luck! Do not need all the info--at this point, need a list of and maybe directors? Creighton may finally be ready to "begin" considering a women's studies program--as part of larger interdisciplinary developments. Thanks in advance for any help in getting list. Please respond privately. Shirley ********************************************************** Shirley A. Scritchfield Ofc: (402) 280-2535 Dept of Sociology & Anthropology Fax: (402) 280-4731 Creighton University shirls@creighton.edu Omaha, NE 68178 (internet) ********************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:49:27 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Paula Gaber Subject: inforM update: glass ceiling report The following files and/or directories have been added to the inforM Women's Studies Database: Women's Studies/GenderIssues/GlassCeiling/MSPBReport "A Question of Equity: Women and the Glass Ceiling in the Federal Government", a report by the Merit Systems Protection Board, examines barriers to women's careers in the federal government. To access the inforM database, telnet to INFORM.UMD.EDU. (If you do not know how to telnet, contact a local computer wizard, or try typing "telnet inform.umd.edu" at the main prompt of your computer account). When it asks for a login id, type "gopher". Use either your arrow keys or number keys to select "4. Educational Resources". After that, select "12. Women's Studies". The Gopher interface has a feature that allows users to send files to their e-mail accounts. Scroll to the end of the file and type "m", or press "q", then "m". The inforM system is also accessible by anonymous ftp. FTP to INFORM.UMD.EDU. Login as "anonymous", and use your mail address as a password. Choose the "info" directory by typing "cd info". The command "cd [directory name]" will change the directory. The commands "dir" or "ls" will display a list of files in that directory. Use the command "get [filename]" to download a file into your account. The directory pathname for the Women's Studies Database is info/Teaching/WomensStudies. Your local Gopher System may be set up to automatically link to the Womens's Studies Database. Check the "Other Systems" or "Other Gophers" directory or ask your system administrator for help. Please remember that the system is case sensitive. Anything that appears in quotes must be typed exactly as it is here. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Paula Gaber inforM, Room 4343 Coordinator, Women's Studies Database Computer Science Center gaber@inform.umd.edu University of Maryland (301) 405-2939 College Park, Maryland 20742 =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 15:03:08 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: Iana's Story I know many people have been touched and moved by Iana's "A Very Special Story." As I've thought about and reread the story I've come to believe that this is a perfect story for Intro to WS classes and I hope Iana will allow Paula to put it the UMDD gopher and Joan to put it on the listserv so it can be distributed widely. We discussed earlier this year about how the Intro course (and other WS courses) can be real downers--we live in an unfriendly, patriarchal world that crushes and harms women. And that's true. But Iana's story shows us other truths: As awful as child abuse (and other abuses) can be, human's can overcome them with the appropriate help; that while patriarchy is a terrible thing, not all individual men are bad; that each of us has the potential to be a Ray Biever for someone. I would certainly like to use it in class. Arnie ******************************************************************************** Arnie Kahn, Psychology, JMU, Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (703) 568-3963 - day fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (703) 434-0225 - night fac_askahn@jmuvax (703) 568-3322 - fax ******************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 14:58:43 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Cohen Subject: Re: Urgent request for BSRI-short form Those of you who read Diane Samdahl's excellent suggestion to check the library for tests and measurements may be assuming that I have found the BSRI-short form by now. However, as I have already written to Diane, I have checked our library and we do not have it. So PLEASE, if anyone has it, I still need it. That's the 30 item version of the Bem Sex Role Inventory. Thanks! Beth Cohen, Graduate Student in Counseling Psychology University of Missouri-Columbia internet: bethc@fcm.missouri.edu bitnet: c508371@mizzou1 fax: 314-884-6172 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 16:15:18 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Iana Pattatucci Subject: My father Most of all, I want people to know who Ray was, so I am greatly moved that anyone would suggest using my tribute to him as part of a learning experience. My only request is that you also mention that there is a fund in his name to which charitable contributions can be made and the address that they can be sent. Although it may take a myriad of different forms, my hope is that other lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual youth may also receive support to develop as I did from Ray. Thanks for all of the warm thoughts and condolences. iana "iana@glib.org" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 21:38:15 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Leslie Bender Subject: Aileen Wuornos Earlier this year someone asked for information about Aileen Wournos. I recently located an article by Phyllis Chesler entitled, "A Woman's Right to Self- Defense: The Case of Aileen Carol Wuornos in Volume 66 St. John's L. Rev. at p. 933-977 (1993). Hope this is useful. I am sorry that I forgot who requested it, so I have to send a response to the whole list. Leslie PROFESSOR LESLIE BENDER COLLEGE OF LAW, E.I. WHITE BLDG. SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY SYRACUSE, NY 13244-1030 PHONE: (315) 443-4462 OR FAX:(315) 443-5394 E-MAIL: LBENDER@SUVM.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 23:16:34 +22311151 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Gail Mason Subject: Re: women and work text needed In-Reply-To: <9308032124.AA28653@umd5.umd.edu> from "Consuelo Lopez Springfield" at Aug 3, 93 02:13:21 pm Hi, Consuela! I was at IU from 1981-84 working on my Ph.D. in Speech Communication (Dennis Gouran was my diss advisor). Weren't you there, also? Gail Mason cfgem@eiu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 11:38:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Johnson Subject: Wolves I am posting this to the list on behalf of my partner Nora Jamieson: Does anyone know of a feminist analysis of Women Who Run With The Wolves? Allan Johnson Department of Sociology Hartford College for Women aljohnson@hartford (bitnet) aljohnson@uhavax.hartford.edu (internet) * * * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 11:53:03 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joya Misra Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA Subject: ASA IN MIAMI Hi. A couple of sociologists on the list (myself and Laura Kramer) are hoping to get together with others on the list in Miami. We were thinking about setting up something for Sunday, but will post information on the bulletin board (the _real_ bulletin board, not a computer one) at the meeting. If you are interested, please do not send a message to the list!! Please contact me, SOCAK663@EMUVM1.CC.EMORY.EDU or SOCAK663@EMUVM1. BITNET Thanks & hope to see you there, Joya Misra ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 12:16:55 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jenni Leister Subject: AHH! Copyright Laws!!! I need some advice. I will be presenting a paper on Gender Equity in Computer Literacy at a national (yet small) conference in November. I was planning making a slide show of various computer advertisements and articles that either constantly show males using and working with computers or show women as passive computer users or sex objects. But, according to our copyright guru here at James Madison University, a slide show of these advertisements would be against copyright regulations. He suggested using either an opaque projector or a video imager to present these ads. Has anyone hit this problem before? What did you do? Also, remember the documentary by Jean Kilbourne entitled "Killing Us Softly" and "Still Killing Us Softly"? She seemingly used slides of magazine ads. Did she get individual copyright permission from every company? How did she do it when she showed how horrible the ads were? Please respond privately to OIT_JENNI@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU or OIT_JENN@JMUVAX. Thanks for your help in advance. Sincerely, Jenni Leister ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 12:17:47 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jenni Leister Subject: Remember the movie "Indecent Proposal"? Does anyone remember how the movie "Indecent Proposal" was advertised in America? My co-worker just came back from the Netherlands and described the misogynist ads in the Netherlands for this movie. Please respond privately to OIT_JENNI@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU or OIT_JENN@JMUVAX. Thanks in advance. Jenni Leister ***************************************************************** "FEMINISM is the radical notion that women are people." --Does anyone know who said this? ***************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 13:02:59 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Elaine Miller Subject: AHH! Copyright Laws!!! Hi Jennie - re your question about copyright laws - I'm surprised to know that a slide show would violate them. Assuming that's true, I'm glad to be informed. I do a lot with editorial cartoons, and I regularly use overhead transparencies. I guess I should look into the legality of that. It's a good format - easy to view with lights on, etc. (What does your local guru say about transparencies?) I just completed a video on cartoonists portrayal of Geraldine Ferraro in the 1984 campaign (called "Running Mate: Gender and Politics in the Editorial Cartoons") and cartoonists' dealing with gender imagery in general. I had to get reprint permissions from about 40 cartoonists and/or their syndicates, and the only one who turned me down had to do with reference to "Italian connections/mafia hints". My discussion is a critique, but no one turned me down on the basis of that (no one even asked). I'd be very interested to know if your work on portrayals in computer ads will be available anywhere. Could you let me know? Thanks. Elaine Miller emiller@acspr1.acs.brockport.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 16:45:47 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Carl M. Kadie" Subject: Re: AHH! Copyright Laws!!! I would think you would have a good case that your slide making and public display are "fair use". Here is a short bit about fair use from "Frequently asked questions (FAQ) about copyright" by Terry Carroll: "... examples of activities that courts have held to be fair use: - Quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; - Quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work for illustration or clarification of the author's observations; [...]" I'm enclosing information on how to get the full FAQ. It has details and references to copyright office documents. - Carl ANNOTATED REFERENCES (All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.) ================= law/Copyright-FAQ ================= * Frequently asked questions (FAQ) about copyright Version 1.0.1. by Terry Carroll. ================= ================= If you have gopher, you can browse the CAF archive with the command gopher gopher.eff.org These document(s) are also available by anonymous ftp (the preferred method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s): pub/academic/law/Copyright-FAQ To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org. Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file name): send acad-freedom/law Copyright-FAQ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 18:56:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: What to do if mail stops (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section six: 6) "WHAT SHOULD I DO IF MAIL FROM WMST-L SUDDENLY STOPS?" Occasionally, mail sent from WMST-L may fail to reach you. If you notice that you haven't received any WMST-L mail for at least 24 hours, you should do the following: A) Send the following two-word message to LISTSERV@UMDD (if you subscribed under a Bitnet address) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if you subscribed under an Internet address): QUERY WMST-L If you get back a message saying that you're not subscribed to WMST-L, send the QUERY WMST-L message to the other LISTSERV address (i.e., if you sent the message to LISTSERV@UMDD, try sending the same message to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU). If your message is successful, you should get back a message from LISTSERV telling you how your "options" are set. The key part will look something like this: > > query wmst-l > Distribution options for Jane Doe , > list WMST-L: Ack= No, Mail= Yes, Files= Yes, > Repro= Yes, Header= Short, Conceal= No Your options may vary; the important part is Mail=Yes. If it says Mail=No, that means your subscription has been set to NOMAIL. The most likely explanation for its being set to NOMAIL is that mail started to bounce and so I set your subscription to NOMAIL. If you've been receiving other mail, or if you receive a message from LISTSERV saying that I've set you to NOMAIL, the problem was probably shortlived and you can set your subscription back to MAIL (for instructions, see B below). If the reply from LISTSERV says Mail=Yes, contact your computer support staff to find out whether they're aware of a mail problem. If they don't know of any problem, contact me privately (NOT VIA WMST-L). B) To set your subscription back to MAIL, simply send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if one doesn't work, try the other): SET WMST-L MAIL If you have questions or encounter problems, please write to me privately at KORENMAN@UMBC (Bitnet) or KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU (Internet). However, PLEASE TRY THE ABOVE STEPS FIRST!! Under NO circumstances should you send messages about your subscription to WMST-L. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 10:13:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: getting a list of subscribers (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section seven: ************************ 7) "HOW CAN I GET A LIST OF SUBSCRIBERS TO WMST-L?" To get a current list of WMST-L subscribers, send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet): REVIEW WMST-L. You'll get back either a mail message with the subject heading "File: 'WMST-L LIST' being sent to you" or a message telling you that the list is being sent as a Netdata file (not a mail file); listserv apparently chooses which method to use. (See section 11 below for instructions on how to retrieve files sent in Netdata format.) Either way, the file contains a list of subscribers, arranged alphabetically by e-mail node (the part of the e-mail address after the "@" sign), not by subscriber's name. If you prefer to receive the list sorted more or less alphabetically by subscriber's last name, send the following command: REVIEW WMST-L BY NAME. ****************** Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 11:10:01 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Ruth Dickstein, University of Arizona Main Library" Subject: LCSH is changing some A few weeks ago there was a discussion about the sexist nature of Library of Congress Subject Headings. I thought those who are interested in this topic might like to know that LC finally recognizes the possibility that there are ambassadors who are female and they could be married, the same is true for ministers, and a whole host of public officials. Maybe next LC will admit that there are Women Deans who are not Deans of Women. Right now the latter is the term used. From: IN%"AUTOCAT@UBVM.BITNET" "AUTOCAT: Library cataloging and authorities discussion group", IN%"tomills@DIANA.CAIR.DU.EDU" "T. F. Mills Kurvitasch" 4-AUG-1993 22:16 Subj: definitive word on spouses (LCSH) X-To: autocat@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu For the benefit of Autocatters who do not subscribe to "LCCN", I am forwarding the following article from vol. 1, no. 6 (Aug. 1993). A recent thread on Autocat debated sexist issues in LCSH, generally under the subject line of "ambassadors' wives" and "LCSH". As you will note below, LC has taken action to correct the problem. Information on subscribing to "LCCN" is appended at the end of the article. Forwarded message: > From lccn@sun7.loc.gov Wed Aug 4 06:44:52 1993 > ***************************************************************** > > SPOUSES > > The Cataloging Policy and Support Office has recently taken > steps to correct a subtle and unintended bias present in LCSH. > This bias has its source in society itself, and is reflected in the > literature acquired and cataloged by the Library of Congress. It > is discussed at length in an article by Margaret N. Rogers in the > April 1993 issue of LIBRARY RESOURCES AND TECHNICAL SERVICES > entitled "Are We On Equal Terms Yet? Subject Headings Concerning > Women in LCSH, 1975-1991." In the article, Ms. Rogers refers to > the "abundance of '[x]'s wives' headings in LCSH ... reflecting the > assumption that in the working world men are the norm." > > In evaluating this situation, CPSO considered the possibility > of establishing "...'s husbands" and "...'s spouses" headings > corresponding with the "...'s wives" headings, so as not to imply > that all members of the designated occupations and professions are > men. As a more practical solution, CPSO chose instead to cancel > the headings for wives and in each case to establish the single, > inclusive, and non-gender specific heading, "...'s spouses." > Although this results in a slight loss of specificity, it avoids > the need to have three headings where one will do. > > These changes will appear on weekly lists 30 and 31, 1993, and > will be reflected in the third quarter issues of CDMARC Subjects > and LCSH on microfiche, as well as in the printed 17th edition of > LCSH, to be published in 1994. > > A revision of the Subject Cataloging Manual: Subject Headings, > H 1330, Biography, reflecting these changes, will be included in > 1993 Update Number 2 to be distributed to subscribers in the autumn > of this year. > ***************************************************************** > LC CATALOGING NEWSLINE (ISSN 1066-8829) is published at least > quarterly by the Cataloging Directorate, Collections Services, > Library of Congress, and contains news of cataloging activities > throughout the Library of Congress. Editorial Office: Cataloging > Policy and Support Office, Library of Congress, Washington, D.C. > 20540-4305. Editor, Robert M. Hiatt; Assistant Editor, Rebecca S. > Guenther. Address inquiries to the editor at the above address or > hiatt@mail.loc.gov (eMail) or (202) 707-5831 (voice). > > LC CATALOGING NEWSLINE is available in electronic form only and is > free of charge. To subscribe, send a mail message to listserv > @sun7.loc.gov with the text: subscribe lccn [firstname lastname]. > Back issues of LCCN are available through the listserver. To find > out what is available, send a mail message to listserv@sun7.loc.gov > with the text: index lccn. To get a specific file, send a mail > message to listserv@sun7.loc.gov with the text: get lccn > [filename]. > > All materials in the newsletter are in the public domain and may be > reproduced, reprinted, and/or redistributed as desired. Citation > to the source is requested. > ***************************************************************** > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 15:15:28 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Paula Gaber Subject: inforM Update: Poetry The following files and/or directories have been added to the inforM Women's Studies Database: Women's Studies/Reading Room/Poetry/EmilyDickinson One hundred and nine of Emily Dickinson's poems as they were orginally published. Women's Studies/Reading Room/Poetry/EdnaStVincentMillay Poems as they appeared in the 1917 edition of _Renascence and Other Poems_. To access the inforM database, telnet to INFORM.UMD.EDU. (If you do not know how to telnet, contact a local computer wizard, or try typing "telnet inform.umd.edu" at the main prompt of your computer account). When it asks for a login id, type "gopher". Use either your arrow keys or number keys to select "4. Educational Resources". After that, select "12. Women's Studies". The Gopher interface has a feature that allows users to send files to their e-mail accounts. Scroll to the end of the file and type "m", or at anytime press "q" (for quit), then "m". The inforM system is also accessible by anonymous ftp. FTP to INFORM.UMD.EDU. Login as "anonymous", and use your mail address as a password. Choose the "info" directory by typing "cd info". The command "cd [directory name]" will change the directory. The commands "dir" or "ls" will display a list of files in that directory. Use the command "get [filename]" to download a file into your account. The directory pathname for the Women's Studies Database is info/Teaching/WomensStudies. Your local Gopher System may be set up to automatically link to the Womens's Studies Database. Check the "Other Systems" or "Other Gophers" directory or ask your system administrator for help. Please remember that the system is case sensitive. Anything that appears in quotes must be typed exactly as it is here. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Paula Gaber inforM, Room 4343 Coordinator, Women's Studies Database Computer Science Center gaber@inform.umd.edu University of Maryland (301) 405-2939 College Park, Maryland 20742 =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 22:16:16 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beatrice Kachuck Subject: Re: Urgent request for BSRI-short form In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 3 Aug 1993 22:18:07 CDT from on the bem and bsri gender scales: as a general matter, i think such scales are seriously flawed. bem herself has published her recognition that they're not useful. like most psych scales, there's an assumption of a trait, implicating biological programming or at best social determinism. situation specific behavi or, situational framing, complexity of interactions in a context are blocked ou t, in fact occluded from consideration; individuals get typed, pathologies are created. i think it's past the time to drop the categories that come from posi tivistic research and to think more deeply about human behavior. beatrice ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 15:27:51 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Lissa Bell Subject: French women's movement (post-1965) I'm looking for sources on the post-1965 French women's movement [beyond the ubiquitous Marks and de Courtivron book). The sources can be primary or secondary, in French or English. Can anyone lend a hand? Or, gentle reader, if you do not know any such sources yourself but do know someone whose bailiwick this is, I'd love to hear about them. The help will be much appreciated. --Lissa Bell ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 18:46:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: when to reply privately (User's Guide) Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind subscribers of the list's resources and procedures. If changes have been made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will begin "Revision:". Here is section nine, one of the most important parts: ******************* 9) "WHEN SHOULD I REPLY PRIVATELY RATHER THAN TO WMST-L?" WMST-L is set up so that replies will normally be sent to all subscribers. If you respond to a WMST-L message by hitting a reply key or typing "reply," everyone will read your response. This is appropriate when the contents are likely to be of interest to a number of subscribers (most suggestions for reading lists and teaching strategies fall into this category). However, if you are writing to request a copy of a paper someone has mentioned, please send your request PRIVATELY, NOT to WMST-L. Similarly, comments directed at a particular person (e.g., "Right on, Rhoda. Good point," or "Thanks for the info," or "What a horrendous experience that must have been. I don't know why people do such things," or "Hi, Jane, I'm glad to see you've joined the list. Write to me," etc.) should be sent PRIVATELY, NOT to WMST-L. Also, short general statements of approval or disapproval (e.g., "Hooray! I'm glad someone finally said that!" or "I can't imagine how anyone can believe such nonsense") should NOT be sent to WMST-L. ******************* Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc